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VATS Hit Chance is Too High

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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by Risewild » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:15 am

They're normal values. It's like that in vanilla FO3 too:
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These are the values in FO3 with the same SPECIAL attributes and a Small Guns skill of 8.
Remember that VATS was primarily made for people who are not good at shooters or can't aim/hit in these games.
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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by RoyBatty » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:38 am

It largely depends on the weapon, they have a base vats to hit chance, and how far away you are, the closer you are, the higher the percentage. Some weapons are better at a distance than others.
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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by Lyaneri » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:24 am

Risewild wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:15 am
Remember that VATS was primarily made for people who are not good at shooters or can't aim/hit in these games.
Think main reason Bethesda made VATS was to copy aimed shots mechanic from Fallout 1 and 2 as close as possible.
(I could also be defending my leet gaming skillz since I use VATS constantly, lol)

As to why it's so high even with low stats/skills? It's just an optional way to shoot at things; It would be useless next to normal combat if set to low.

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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by Risewild » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:49 am

Lyaneri wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:24 am
Risewild wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:15 am
Remember that VATS was primarily made for people who are not good at shooters or can't aim/hit in these games.
Think main reason Bethesda made VATS was to copy aimed shots mechanic from Fallout 1 and 2 as close as possible.
(I could also be defending my leet gaming skillz since I use VATS constantly, lol)
P.S. I like your new sig picture Risewild!
They might say it was to copy aimed shots, but there is way more things that show it's just to help a player survive fights than to copy anything in the classic games. :P

If it was to copy the classics aimed shots, then it would allow melee and unarmed attacks to choose a body part, instead of just having the "Body" as target, it wouldn't be missing the "eyes" or the iconic "groin" as targets, it would also not increase the damage dealt while in VATS or reduce the damage the PC takes to just 10%, it wouldn't increase the melee and unarmed damage even more than ranged damage (they think that close quarters combat was harder, so they had to "compensate" for it), etc.

They might say it is to copy aimed shots... But in my opinion, it seems obvious that they wanted something to help players that needed help at shooting/fighting in the game (and let's be honest, the shooting in FO3 is widely criticized for being quite bad for a shooter), and might have thought that the classic games aimed shots could be changed to do just that. :lol:
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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by Lyaneri » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:32 pm

Oh wow, yeah, you got some good points there. Didn't know it was buffed up so much like that. I knew that you took less damage but not that you also deal more damage.

I remember some promo vid with J. Sawyer saying that there will be groin shots in game. Dunno what happened with that, probably soft caress with censor hand from Bethesda or Zenimax.

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Re: VATS Hit Chance is Too High

Post by Risewild » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:56 am

Lyaneri wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:32 pm
Oh wow, yeah, you got some good points there. Didn't know it was buffed up so much like that. I knew that you took less damage but not that you also deal more damage.

I remember some promo vid with J. Sawyer saying that there will be groin shots in game. Dunno what happened with that, probably soft caress with censor hand from Bethesda or Zenimax.
VATS is not as strong in FNV as it was in FO3. Obsidian nerfed it a bit because they probably thought like I did, that using VATS was too easy in FO3. :lol:
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