Help with load order?

Post by **Kuro_Neko** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:46 am

Indeed. What's the point of even being able to uncheck it if it's just going to load it anyway.

So, new problem. A minor one this time: my compass, hp bar, ammo & cnd, and ap bars aren't getting hidden by ihud like they're supposed to. I installed the mods in the order they're listed in the darnifiedUI mod: DarnifiedUI -> Project Nevada -> Mod Configuration Menu -> Other UI mods (Stimpack counter, JIP Selective Fire, Vera) -> One-Hud -> Flashlight NVSE -> UIO. And the load order is as it is in the Load Order General Guide. I tried putting One-Hud after Project Nevada instead of before it like the Load Order General Guide said just in case that was an issue. No change. Here's my current load order:

[collapsed title=Load Order]

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

CaravanPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

TTWFixes.esm

TTWInteriors_Core.esm

Destruction.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

CFWTTW.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm

MoiraCompanion.esm

NVWillow.esp

TTW Redesigned.esm

oHUD.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

TTWInt_FollowerGoHome.esm

NevadaSkies.esm

Advanced Recon Tech.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

More Perks.esp

TTWOptions.esp

TTW_Companions_Essential.esp

TTW_StashPackOptions.esp

TTW Perk Overhaul.esp

ttw_-_eye_glasses_fix_0.esp

TTW_StartupMenu.esp

Vending Machines of The Wastes.esp

DarNifiedUINV.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Vera.esp

Stimpak Counter.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Armored Duster.esp

Advanced Recon Tech.esp

Advanced Recon Armor.esp

Advanced Recon Armor-Easier Stealth.esp

Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

Advanced Recon Gear.esp

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-AllInOne.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.esp

ZLArmaments-NoCaliberX.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

weapons.of_.the_.new_.millenia.ttw_.unified.distribution.esp

TTW_replacers.esp

Dark Justice Duster.esp

TTW Advanced Recon.esp

Lookout Outfits.esp

T3_leather armors.esp

MagazinesReworked.esp

LFox Bottle That Water - TTW Edition.esp

risesbooks MagRwrkd.esp

BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp

NVT3Tattered Suits.esp

Type3 Leather Armors.esp

josexysleepwear.esp

bzArmour.esp

T3T_LCA_TTW_ImprovedNtlGuardArmory.esp

T3T_LCA_TTW_ImprovedWheatonArmory.esp

ttwweaponmods_0.esp

pre-war_money.esp

Real Weapon Names.esp

Perks for Challenges.esp

Owned!.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Stealth Kills Enabled.esp

BulkAmmoCrafting.esp

BoostedSkills.esp

Delay DLC - TTW.esp

LightSaber--TTW.esp

TTW_Difficult_Journey.esp

moremapmarkersttw_0.esp

TTWIntMojaveExpressBoxes_Combo.esp

TTW_Crashed_Vertibird.esp

OldWorldRadio.esp

RadioClassical.esp

Existence2.0.esp

christinecos.esp

HZSmoothLight.esp

CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

SephTTWRaiderLootIntegration.esp

TTW_Transportalponder.esp

dc_ammo_conversion.esp

ttw_-_add_4_eyes_to_power_helmets_-_overrride.esp

ttw_guaranteed_ammo.esp

karmafix.esp

nowarp_0.esp

radios.esp

nvradioon.esp

NPCs Consume Ammo.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod Merged Patch Helper.esp

NVWillow - Project Nevada Rebalance.esp

mergedpatch.esp

TTW Realistic Wasteland Lighting.esp

NevadaSkies - URLIFIED Interiors.esp

NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp

Total active plugins: 121

Total plugins: 121

[/collapsed]

This is as I said a minor issue, so I can live with it if I have to. But any assistance would be appreciated.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:52 am

My bad confusing it with uHud... uhm in MO move darn above I guess. I dunno I don't use oHud anymore.

Post by **Kuro_Neko** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:08 am

So two new problems, both thankfully minor. Mora's outfit keeps changing depending on the distance and angle at which I'm viewing her. Most common are a white sleaved bomber jacket and some sort of maroon tigerstrip jumpsuit but there's a couple of patterns that pop up as well.

The other one is that my hunger, thirst and sleep bars don't seem to be moving at all. Over twenty-four hours and I'm not hungry, thirsty or sleep deprived at all.

Here's my load order:

[collapsed title=Load Order]

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

CaravanPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

TTWFixes.esm

TTWInteriors_Core.esm

Destruction.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

CFWTTW.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm

MoiraCompanion.esm

NVWillow.esp

TTW Redesigned.esm

oHUD.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

TTWInt_FollowerGoHome.esm

NevadaSkies.esm

Advanced Recon Tech.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

More Perks.esp

TTWOptions.esp

TTW_Companions_Essential.esp

TTW_StashPackOptions.esp

TTW Perk Overhaul.esp

ttw_-_eye_glasses_fix_0.esp

TTW_StartupMenu.esp

Vending Machines of The Wastes.esp

DarNifiedUINV.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Vera.esp

Stimpak Counter.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Armored Duster.esp

Advanced Recon Tech.esp

Advanced Recon Armor.esp

Advanced Recon Armor-Easier Stealth.esp

Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

Advanced Recon Gear.esp

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-AllInOne.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.esp

ZLArmaments-NoCaliberX.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

weapons.of_.the_.new_.millenia.ttw_.unified.distribution.esp

TTW_replacers.esp

Dark Justice Duster.esp

TTW Advanced Recon.esp

Lookout Outfits.esp

T3_leather armors.esp

MagazinesReworked.esp

LFox Bottle That Water - TTW Edition.esp

risesbooks MagRwrkd.esp

BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp

NVT3Tattered Suits.esp

Type3 Leather Armors.esp

josexysleepwear.esp

bzArmour.esp

T3T_LCA_TTW_ImprovedNtlGuardArmory.esp

T3T_LCA_TTW_ImprovedWheatonArmory.esp

ttwweaponmods_0.esp

pre-war_money.esp

Real Weapon Names.esp

Perks for Challenges.esp

Owned!.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Stealth Kills Enabled.esp

BulkAmmoCrafting.esp

BoostedSkills.esp

Delay DLC - TTW.esp

LightSaber--TTW.esp

TTW_Difficult_Journey.esp

moremapmarkersttw_0.esp

TTWIntMojaveExpressBoxes_Combo.esp

TTW_Crashed_Vertibird.esp

OldWorldRadio.esp

RadioClassical.esp

Existence2.0.esp

christinecos.esp

HZSmoothLight.esp

CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

SephTTWRaiderLootIntegration.esp

TTW_Transportalponder.esp

dc_ammo_conversion.esp

ttw_-_add_4_eyes_to_power_helmets_-_overrride.esp

ttw_guaranteed_ammo.esp

karmafix.esp

nowarp_0.esp

radios.esp

nvradioon.esp

NPCs Consume Ammo.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod Merged Patch Helper.esp

NVWillow - Project Nevada Rebalance.esp

mergedpatch.esp

TTW Realistic Wasteland Lighting.esp

NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp

Total active plugins: 120

Total plugins: 120

[/collapsed]

I can certainly live with these issues if I have to. But if anyone has any suggestions they would be appreciated. Thanks.

Post by **Trm8r** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:43 pm

Hardcore needs can go wacky if we change the timescale and use an alternate type of fast travel. I usually temporarily fix it by either sleeping for an hour turning hardcore off then on. Once I let it go to long and died immediately upon loading a save. If you haven't changed the timescale then you'll have to wait for one of the smart guys to answer.

Post by **Kuro_Neko** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:58 pm

That might be it. I didn't change it on purpose, but PN changes it by default and I hadn't realised until alittle ways in. I've got it set back to the regular 30 (even though I find that way too fast) since I remember seeing in the faq that that was necessary. I'll try turning hardcore needs off and then back on again and see if that works. Thanks.

Post by **Trm8r** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:29 pm

I hate the vanilla timescale, so I say 'damn the torpedoes' and live with the bugs. But I usually restart before I finish Broken Steel.

Post by **Kuro_Neko** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:28 am

I hate it too. In previous play throughs I usually set it to something much more easonable, like 5. Why exactly does the time scale need to be 30? And what happens if it isn't?

Post by **RoyBatty** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:42 am

The games internal timings are set for that time scale, stuff we can't control. So if it's not that, things get out of sync. Quests with cutscenes will break or not work, things with timed events will break or act strange, etc.

Post by **Trm8r** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:04 pm

For what it's worth, I've always changed the timescale and rarely encountered big problems. On this playthrough I've had to console my way through Tranquility Lane and the Pres Metro. But that was after I installed and uninstalled quite a few mods, one of them was Dust. I think a setting of 8 is reasonably safe, but Roy knows far more about the game than me.

Post by **Kuro_Neko** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:39 pm

Turning hardcore needs off and then back on again resolved that issue.

Still having texture issues with mora's outfit. And I've noticed something simlar happening to my character when wearing the armored vault tech suit.