Strange Bug: Moira, miraculous healer of the Wastes

Post by **vensersprodigy** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:52 pm

Glitch: Proximity to Moira (within or outside of crater side supply) automatically heals all hit-points and limbs to full, and prevents them from being damaged even with console commands, and these effects occasionally happens when she's not around (trigger unknown, but she is definitely a trigger) but I have only found the issue to persist next to Moira. I simply do not know what is causing this. I admit I have not tried anything to fix it, as I am hopelessly lost with my massive load order and complete lack of mods that (as far as I know) affect healing. Health is slightly different, as I was using Project Nevada, but due to console commands not lowering my health or limb condition I do not thing that is the problem.

I am using the GOTY edition for both games, and nexus mod manager for all the mods EXCEPT TTW, for which I used FNVEdit. FNVedit was used to identify problems with load order, as LOOT didn't identify missing masters, incompatabilities ECT.

System Specs:

windows 7 home premium (64 bit)

8 gb installed memory ( I am having trouble identifying which entry in device manager is Memory, will update if I can identify exact memory, sorry)

6 Intel(r) Xeon(R) Cpus, E5430 @ 2.66 GHz, (according to device manager) no drivers as they are not up for download as far as I know.

I am sorry for not giving my memory, but I am sick ATM and not very good at troubleshooting for now. Load order and install log available for download (as I can't figure out how to make a spoiler for them)

Post by **Puppettron** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:17 pm

i'm not sure exactly what's going on, but all doctor fixes, including moira's one-time doctoring, are scripted, so there's probably something screwing with that.

on your LO: move fo3.esm to below the crappacks, move ttw-Fixes to just below ttw.esm, make a merge patch

Post by **Risewild** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:22 pm

I can't really help with identifying the problem, but I can rule out that it is a TTW bug. I recently did the quest for her to get injured below 50% HP and I was still injured when I talked to her, not to mention the other times I went to talk to her when I was hurt.

I hope someone that knows more than me can come by and help work out this mystery.

Post by **Puppettron** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:05 pm

well, i know fixes was dealing with a bug where moira'd do the healing/rad removal stuff in a forcegreet when you went to her shop, but i'm not sure that's what's going on there.

Post by **vensersprodigy** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:26 am

Well, I have started another character, and I'm not having the issue now. I have completed all of moira's quests up to the mirelurk nest, so it does appear to be save-game based. Thanks for all the help!

Post by **be_cracked** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:17 pm

I am experiencing similar issues, though I think that that does not just happen around Moira but also e.g. whilst in combat which seems very strange.

I'll update this after I tried around a bit.

Post by **be_cracked** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:46 pm

This bug is a real gamebreaker...

So far I found that getting into Craterside Shop with Moira inside and fast traveling ANYWHERE does the miracle healing. But if I talk to Moira the 'get hurt'-quest still completes, saying I'd been wounded, but she doesn't do any healing animation (like the Rad one) which she is supposed to do, if I'm not mistaken.

Also I experienced the bug Puppetron mentioned for a while. Where she would perform her Rad-Removel-Procedure after accesing the shop.

If it only were about Moira it wouldn't be so bad, but fast traveling to any location and get instant 100% HP + Limps is pretty sh*t.

So my next guess would be that it could have something to do with the 'get hurt'-quest, so I'll try to find that out.

Post by **Puppettron** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:54 pm

like rise mentioned, it's not an vanilla ttw bug, so we have no idea what's causing it for you.

Post by **be_cracked** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:10 pm

Yeah, I have quite a few mods installed as well, but I think I found at least a solution. Not the particular reason, but the healing stopped after I finished the Quest and started the next one. Finishing the Quest is pretty possible, since (as I mentioned earlier) Moira still seems to think you are injured questwise.

So at least the sympton can be fixed and one might not even notice it is there, when finishing the Quest fast.

Post by **pepertje** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 pm

I think something is cauling a loop in Moira's healing script. It's supposed to set off once you've completed an objective where you're supposed to get irradiated or injured, and I believe something is causing it to loop. Just a theory, but I've messed around with the script to see if it works. (In my case, she just started toting the healing line every time I visited her.)