Crushed Text and FNVEdit questions.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Sun May 18, 2014 9:21 pm

So I was running through my heavily modded Fallout the past two days and noticed that I still had the problem sometimes where all the text would go to one line for options and I wouldn't be able to select any of them. This hadn't happened before and I had made it all the way through GNR and was in The Mall when problems arised. Last night I had played through all of it without a problem. I did add about 6ish plugins today to see what'd happen and I've had to constantly fiddle with Project Nevada due to its unwieldy HUD problems. IT only happened to certain characters whereas before it happened to all of them and now I can't fast travel because it smashes the yes and the no together( though I can live with THAT). I was wondering a few things,

A) Would anyone be able to figure out what might be the problem via load order?

B) Would looking into FNVEdit be able to help me figure out what the problem is?

C) Are the characters Greta and Azruhkal different from people like Winthrop and Carol in terms of NPC values( Like they are both shop keepers and I couldn't speak to them due to this problem)

D) Would merging some of my plugins help in any way to fix this problem?

E) What is the meaning of life and is it edible?

[collapsed title=Load Order]

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

More Traits.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

RHKGilbertCompanion.esm

TTWInteriors_Core.esm

TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm

TTWFixes.esm

streetlights.esm

Niner.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

AEFCore.esm

RoxieForEver.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

OWB Companion Teleport.esp

OWB Moddable FIDO.esp

OWB More Vendor Caps.esp

OWB Stealth Field Suit.esp

OWB Valence Extra.esp

OWB Valence Mask.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp

BetterArmedBrightFollowers.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

CorpseEquip.esp

GRARG.esp

populatedcasino-medium.esp

TorresInventoryExpansion.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

athornysituation.esp

avangraffscorned.esp

awilderwasteland.esp

kochandbohr.esp

Expanded Traits.esp

More Perks.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Better Casinos.esp

Casino UnBanner.esp

GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp

MoreContainers.esp

NukaVend25.esp

Rustyhwys.esp

SignatureArmor.esp

SignatureWeapons.esp

DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp

MiscItemWeapons.esp

Murdelizer.esp

PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp

EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

HitmanSuitNV-B.esp

PlasmaShields.esp

AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp

desmond companion.esp

GARU.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Delay DLC - TTW.esp

Vault_34_better_reactor.esp

XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp

WMXUE.esp

SimpleStreetLights.esp

Fellout.esp

Fellout-OWB.esp

friendofnightforfellout.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp

Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp

Bennys Lucky Suit.esp

Machienzo-RadioNewVegasBugFix.esp

Busworld.esp

TTW_Companions_Essential.esp

ttw_femaleenclavesoldiers.esp

TTW Vehicle Scavenge.esp

uylssesbarksfix.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

rilttwinteriorpatch.esp

TTW Perk Overhaul.esp

Companions Relax.esp

D.C. Confidential.esp

DLC WITM - Complete.esp

ED-E Heavy Weapons.esp

ED-E Flying Fixed.esp

ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp

PlastekTeslaRiflev1.esp

Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp

ILO - Tale of Two Wastelands.esp

NewMall.esp

Halo.esp

HW-Powerfist-7UPD.esp

ProductionPlasmaRifle.esp

NV Veronica Hood n Robes Playable.esp

vault22FloralOverhaul.esp

Bzzt!.esp

TTW_BaileysCrossingMetro.esp

TTW - Fellout.esp

veronicacutenerd.esp

Rebuild Ed-E.esp

KH TTW-YUP Patch.esp

KH TTW Bugfixes.esp

OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active.esp

KatanaSheathRemover.esp

CouchFix.esp

Nova-Prostitute.esp

LFox Magic Fingers Perk Level 24.esp

RangerSignPatrol.esp

Newoffice.esp

Cannibal.esp

AER14 Green disintegration.esp

Real Chinese Stealth Armor (Lucky 38 Basement).esp

Wishing_Fountain.esp

VeronicaRechargerPistol.esp

WMXUE-CouriersStash.esp

wmx-ttw-unified.esp

TeleportationScheme.esp

AEFDeadMoney.esp

AEFHonestHearts.esp

AEFOldWorldBlues.esp

RHKGilbertCompanion-Primm.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

My Merged Patch.esp

Total active plugins: 151

Total plugins: 151

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Post by TJ » Sun May 18, 2014 9:27 pm

Sounds like your problem is related to your xml files. Install and run uHUD. Also, you're still over the plugin limit, that could be causing issues too.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Sun May 18, 2014 9:28 pm

I do have uHUD installed and I'll take out some plugins, thought it might be that. Hoping it is.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Sun May 18, 2014 9:58 pm

The problem is fixed! I got rid of my Wendy Gilbert mods and lowered the plugin list, remade my Merged Patch and was able to talk to shopkeepers again and I could talk to Greta. Note to self: Check plugins more often.

EDIT: The problem WAS fixed, I just made it into Goodsprings for the first time and I've been dealing with having too much stuff in my inventory almost the entire time I was at the station so I went to go talk to good ol' Chet and would you know it, he has this problem now. I just quit the game because I've been playing for a few hours but I was wondering if there was some bloody reason the text was smashing into one line and overlapping each other?

If there's any way to check via FNVEdit that'd be wonderful to know.

Post by **plumjuice** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:01 am

Im guessing you've still got too many plugins.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:04 am

Well I'm under 150, I've been trying to slim down but I also really want a lot of these.

[collapsed title=Load Order]

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

More Traits.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

TTWInteriors_Core.esm

TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm

TTWFixes.esm

streetlights.esm

Niner.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

AEFCore.esm

RoxieForEver.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

OWB Companion Teleport.esp

OWB Moddable FIDO.esp

OWB More Vendor Caps.esp

OWB Stealth Field Suit.esp

OWB Valence Extra.esp

OWB Valence Mask.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp

BetterArmedBrightFollowers.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

CorpseEquip.esp

GRARG.esp

populatedcasino-medium.esp

TorresInventoryExpansion.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

athornysituation.esp

avangraffscorned.esp

awilderwasteland.esp

kochandbohr.esp

Expanded Traits.esp

More Perks.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Better Casinos.esp

Casino UnBanner.esp

GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp

MoreContainers.esp

NukaVend25.esp

Rustyhwys.esp

SignatureArmor.esp

SignatureWeapons.esp

DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp

MiscItemWeapons.esp

Murdelizer.esp

PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp

EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

HitmanSuitNV-B.esp

PlasmaShields.esp

AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp

desmond companion.esp

GARU.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Delay DLC - TTW.esp

Vault_34_better_reactor.esp

XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp

WMXUE.esp

SimpleStreetLights.esp

Fellout.esp

Fellout-OWB.esp

friendofnightforfellout.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp

Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp

Bennys Lucky Suit.esp

Machienzo-RadioNewVegasBugFix.esp

Busworld.esp

TTW_Companions_Essential.esp

ttw_femaleenclavesoldiers.esp

TTW Vehicle Scavenge.esp

uylssesbarksfix.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

rilttwinteriorpatch.esp

TTW Perk Overhaul.esp

Companions Relax.esp

D.C. Confidential.esp

DLC WITM - Complete.esp

ED-E Heavy Weapons.esp

ED-E Flying Fixed.esp

ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp

PlastekTeslaRiflev1.esp

Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp

ILO - Tale of Two Wastelands.esp

NewMall.esp

Halo.esp

HW-Powerfist-7UPD.esp

ProductionPlasmaRifle.esp

NV Veronica Hood n Robes Playable.esp

vault22FloralOverhaul.esp

Bzzt!.esp

TTW_BaileysCrossingMetro.esp

TTW - Fellout.esp

veronicacutenerd.esp

Rebuild Ed-E.esp

KH TTW-YUP Patch.esp

KH TTW Bugfixes.esp

OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active.esp

KatanaSheathRemover.esp

CouchFix.esp

Nova-Prostitute.esp

LFox Magic Fingers Perk Level 24.esp

RangerSignPatrol.esp

Newoffice.esp

Cannibal.esp

AER14 Green disintegration.esp

Real Chinese Stealth Armor (Lucky 38 Basement).esp

Wishing_Fountain.esp

VeronicaRechargerPistol.esp

WMXUE-CouriersStash.esp

wmx-ttw-unified.esp

TeleportationScheme.esp

AEFDeadMoney.esp

AEFHonestHearts.esp

AEFOldWorldBlues.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Total active plugins: 148

Total plugins: 149

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Post by **plumjuice** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:08 am

Sub 140 is what you want.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:14 am

So I realized that I hadn't activated my Merged Patch and assumed that was the problem and when I went back into the game I was in the middle of the Museum of Technology getting through the GNR quest.... from two hours ago.

I'll just cheat tomorrow and make an op character to test and see if this stuff is working correctly. Goodnight guys.

(The autosave was nonexistant)

Post by **Drewkey** » Mon May 19, 2014 3:32 pm

Combining esp

You might find this edit macro for FNVEdit usefull:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37981

It offers a reasonably foolproof method for combining plug-ins, so that you can keep your content and reduce their number below 140.

To install, download MANUALLY the file from nexus (don't worry that this is a skyrim edit macro it works just fine for FNV as well). Open the zip file you have just downloaded and copy the contents of the included Edit Scripts folder into FNVEdit's Edit Scripts folder.

(FNVEdit's Edit Scripts folder should be in the same directory as FNVEdit.exe).

To use follow the tutorial in the read me but it basically boils down to:

(If Applicable) Unpack any BSA associated with the esp you are going to combine

Load FNVEdit selecting those mods that you wish to combine

Highlight the mods to combine, right click and select "check for errors"

If there are no errors then Highlight the mods to combine, right click and select "Apply Script"

When the selection box for Script to apply comes up select "Merge Plugins v1.6"

Make sure that the mods you want to merge are ticked then click OK

Choose "-- CREATE NEW FILE --" when asked which esp you want to merge into and the give the new combined esp a name that does not already exist.

If no error messages appeared in the output then close FNVEdit saving only the new combined esp.

Then open up your mod manager and deactivate the esps you have combined from your load order and activate the combined esp (placing the combined esp just after the last of the now deactivated esp used to create it).

N.B. Take care that none of the mods you combine are masters for mods not being combined.

I have used this to help manage my load order and for me it works wonderfully.

Post by **Cannibal_Kon** » Tue May 20, 2014 2:33 am

Okay so with the method Drewkey posted above I have merged a little bit and hit 140 plugins and yet my problem with Chet still happens. Should I make a new save and try again to check or, yet again I ask, is there some way I can check what mods modify Chet in FNVEdit and go from there?

Edit: AEFCore + DLC is AEFCore.esm + AEFHonestHearts.esp + AEFOldWorldBlues.esp + the other dlcs it adds.

Is that a smart thing to merge and is my placement of the new merged mod a smart idea?

[collapsed title=New Load Order]

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

More Traits.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

TTWInteriors_Core.esm

TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm

TTWFixes.esm

streetlights.esm

Niner.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

RoxieForEver.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp

BetterArmedBrightFollowers.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

CorpseEquip.esp

GRARG.esp

populatedcasino-medium.esp

TorresInventoryExpansion.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

athornysituation.esp

avangraffscorned.esp

awilderwasteland.esp

kochandbohr.esp

Expanded Traits.esp

More Perks.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Better Casinos.esp

Casino UnBanner.esp

GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp

MoreContainers.esp

NukaVend25.esp

Rustyhwys.esp

SignatureArmor.esp

SignatureWeapons.esp

DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp

MiscItemWeapons.esp

Murdelizer.esp

PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp

EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

HitmanSuitNV-B.esp

PlasmaShields.esp

AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp

desmond companion.esp

GARU.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Delay DLC - TTW.esp

Vault_34_better_reactor.esp

XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp

WMXUE.esp

SimpleStreetLights.esp

Fellout.esp

Fellout-OWB.esp

friendofnightforfellout.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp

Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp

Bennys Lucky Suit.esp

Machienzo-RadioNewVegasBugFix.esp

Busworld.esp

TTW_Companions_Essential.esp

ttw_femaleenclavesoldiers.esp

TTW Vehicle Scavenge.esp

uylssesbarksfix.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

rilttwinteriorpatch.esp

TTW Perk Overhaul.esp

Companions Relax.esp

D.C. Confidential.esp

DLC WITM - Complete.esp

ED-E Heavy Weapons.esp

ED-E Flying Fixed.esp

ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp

PlastekTeslaRiflev1.esp

Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp

ILO - Tale of Two Wastelands.esp

NewMall.esp

Halo.esp

HW-Powerfist-7UPD.esp

ProductionPlasmaRifle.esp

NV Veronica Hood n Robes Playable.esp

vault22FloralOverhaul.esp

Bzzt!.esp

TTW_BaileysCrossingMetro.esp

TTW - Fellout.esp

veronicacutenerd.esp

Rebuild Ed-E.esp

KH TTW-YUP Patch.esp

KH TTW Bugfixes.esp

OWBFixes.esp

KatanaSheathRemover.esp

CouchFix.esp

Nova-Prostitute.esp

LFox Magic Fingers Perk Level 24.esp

RangerSignPatrol.esp

Newoffice.esp

Cannibal.esp

AER14 Green disintegration.esp

Real Chinese Stealth Armor (Lucky 38 Basement).esp

Wishing_Fountain.esp

VeronicaRechargerPistol.esp

WMXUE-CouriersStash.esp

wmx-ttw-unified.esp

TeleportationScheme.esp

AEFCore + DLC.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

My Merged Patch.esp

Total active plugins: 140

Total plugins: 151

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Edit 2: I figured adding a picture might help seeing as I can now easily talk to Chet.

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