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plumjuice
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Chet is in the very long NPC

Post by plumjuice » Tue May 20, 2014 2:56 am

Chet is in the very long NPC list. Your problem is probably caused (still) by too many plugins. Im pretty sure inactive plugins still affect the game in some way. Move the inactive ones out of your data folder and try again.


There is a merged version of more perks on the NVEC nexus page. There is a combined FNV+FO3 more perks on this site.


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Cannibal_Kon
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I do have the one on this

Post by Cannibal_Kon » Tue May 20, 2014 3:00 am

I do have the one on this site, what's confusing me is the fact I have things like double the amount of traits.



Edit: I took out all the unchecked plugins but my merged AEF patch was acting funny so I left AEFCore.esm in because it seems to need that checked or unchecked it has to be there.



[collapsed title=Cleared Load Order]



FalloutNV.esm


DeadMoney.esm


HonestHearts.esm


OldWorldBlues.esm


LonesomeRoad.esm


GunRunnersArsenal.esm


Fallout3.esm


Anchorage.esm


ThePitt.esm


BrokenSteel.esm


PointLookout.esm


Zeta.esm


TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm


ClassicPack.esm


MercenaryPack.esm


TribalPack.esm


CaravanPack.esm


YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm


AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm


More Traits.esm


Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm


Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm


Project Nevada - Core.esm


Project Nevada - Equipment.esm


Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm


Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp


Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp


TTWInteriors_Core.esm


TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm


TTWFixes.esm


streetlights.esm


Niner.esm


Vault 101 Revisited.esm


AEFCore.esm


RoxieForEver.esm


YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp


Integration - Couriers Stash.esp


The Mod Configuration Menu.esp


Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp


BetterArmedBrightFollowers.esp


Better Burned Man.esp


CorpseEquip.esp


GRARG.esp


populatedcasino-medium.esp


TorresInventoryExpansion.esp


Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp


Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp


Project Nevada - All DLC.esp


athornysituation.esp


avangraffscorned.esp


awilderwasteland.esp


kochandbohr.esp


Expanded Traits.esp


More Perks.esp


More Traits Update.esp


Better Casinos.esp


Casino UnBanner.esp


GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp


MoreContainers.esp


NukaVend25.esp


Rustyhwys.esp


SignatureArmor.esp


SignatureWeapons.esp


DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp


MiscItemWeapons.esp


Murdelizer.esp


PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp


EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp


FlashlightNVSE.esp


HitmanSuitNV-B.esp


PlasmaShields.esp


AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp


desmond companion.esp


GARU.esp


dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp


Delay DLC - TTW.esp


Vault_34_better_reactor.esp


XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp


WMXUE.esp


SimpleStreetLights.esp


Fellout.esp


Fellout-OWB.esp


friendofnightforfellout.esp


Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp


ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp


ILO - A World of Pain.esp


AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp


Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp


Bennys Lucky Suit.esp


Machienzo-RadioNewVegasBugFix.esp


Busworld.esp


TTW_Companions_Essential.esp


ttw_femaleenclavesoldiers.esp


TTW Vehicle Scavenge.esp


uylssesbarksfix.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp


rilttwinteriorpatch.esp


Companions Relax.esp


D.C. Confidential.esp


DLC WITM - Complete.esp


ED-E Heavy Weapons.esp


ED-E Flying Fixed.esp


ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp


PlastekTeslaRiflev1.esp


Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp


ILO - Tale of Two Wastelands.esp


NewMall.esp


Halo.esp


HW-Powerfist-7UPD.esp


ProductionPlasmaRifle.esp


NV Veronica Hood n Robes Playable.esp


vault22FloralOverhaul.esp


Bzzt!.esp


TTW_BaileysCrossingMetro.esp


TTW - Fellout.esp


veronicacutenerd.esp


Rebuild Ed-E.esp


KH TTW-YUP Patch.esp


KH TTW Bugfixes.esp


TTW Perk Overhaul.esp


OWBFixes.esp


KatanaSheathRemover.esp


CouchFix.esp


Nova-Prostitute.esp


LFox Magic Fingers Perk Level 24.esp


RangerSignPatrol.esp


Newoffice.esp


Cannibal.esp


AER14 Green disintegration.esp


Real Chinese Stealth Armor (Lucky 38 Basement).esp


Wishing_Fountain.esp


VeronicaRechargerPistol.esp


WMXUE-CouriersStash.esp


wmx-ttw-unified.esp


TeleportationScheme.esp


AEFCore + DLC.esp


Project Nevada - TTW.esp


My Merged Patch.esp


 


Total active plugins: 141


Total plugins: 141

[/collapsed] 



I can merge more but I feel like it might be more than just too many plugins.


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TJ
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Rename your whole Fallout

Post by TJ » Tue May 20, 2014 3:52 am

Rename your whole Fallout folder to Fallout NV2 or something to that effect. Do a fresh, clean install of FNV. When you're finished zip into an archive, then install TTW. Do NOT install any mods. Install Thermador's start in NV plugin. Start a new game and go straight to Chet. Is there a problem? If no, you need to have a heart to heart with yourself and come to grips with the fact that you need to cut your load order in half. Not down to 140 plugins... in half.


You're right: it is more than too many plugins. It's too many buggy plugins with dirty edits and conflicts you don't even realize you have.


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Cannibal_Kon
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Thank you TJ, I thought about

Post by Cannibal_Kon » Tue May 20, 2014 4:04 am

Thank you TJ, I thought about it and realized the reason the bugs suddenly started happening was because I tried to cram 3-4 more mods in after I noticed the game was running without a hitch, I just got rid of the AEF mods entirely (cutting out the roxie plugin as well) and took out the mod for an aesthetic like an animation when you use the Big MT teleporter as well as my mod to make the wishing fountain in front of the Ultra Luxe a game of chance.



When I removed all of them I went to Chet and he could talk normally again. I'm going to keep slimming it down as much as I can because I am beginning to get a feel for how many plugins this computer can handle. 140 is too many I see but if the problem persists later down the road I will continue to chop off mods and if it comes down to half then I'll make sure to do that. I'm both a hoarder with mods and items in the game so it's a big reason why I have a problem with this. Thank you for that though TJ.



also new load order incase it helps anyone:

[collapsed title=Load Order]



FalloutNV.esm


DeadMoney.esm


HonestHearts.esm


OldWorldBlues.esm


LonesomeRoad.esm


GunRunnersArsenal.esm


Fallout3.esm


Anchorage.esm


ThePitt.esm


BrokenSteel.esm


PointLookout.esm


Zeta.esm


TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm


ClassicPack.esm


MercenaryPack.esm


TribalPack.esm


CaravanPack.esm


YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm


AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm


More Traits.esm


Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm


Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm


Project Nevada - Core.esm


Project Nevada - Equipment.esm


Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm


Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp


Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp


TTWInteriors_Core.esm


TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm


TTWFixes.esm


streetlights.esm


Niner.esm


Vault 101 Revisited.esm


YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp


Integration - Couriers Stash.esp


The Mod Configuration Menu.esp


Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp


BetterArmedBrightFollowers.esp


Better Burned Man.esp


CorpseEquip.esp


GRARG.esp


populatedcasino-medium.esp


TorresInventoryExpansion.esp


Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp


Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp


Project Nevada - All DLC.esp


athornysituation.esp


avangraffscorned.esp


awilderwasteland.esp


kochandbohr.esp


Expanded Traits.esp


More Perks.esp


More Traits Update.esp


Better Casinos.esp


Casino UnBanner.esp


GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp


MoreContainers.esp


NukaVend25.esp


Rustyhwys.esp


SignatureArmor.esp


SignatureWeapons.esp


DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp


MiscItemWeapons.esp


Murdelizer.esp


PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp


EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp


FlashlightNVSE.esp


HitmanSuitNV-B.esp


PlasmaShields.esp


AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp


desmond companion.esp


GARU.esp


dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp


Delay DLC - TTW.esp


Vault_34_better_reactor.esp


XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp


WMXUE.esp


SimpleStreetLights.esp


Fellout.esp


Fellout-OWB.esp


friendofnightforfellout.esp


Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp


ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp


ILO - A World of Pain.esp


AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp


Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp


Bennys Lucky Suit.esp


Machienzo-RadioNewVegasBugFix.esp


Busworld.esp


TTW_Companions_Essential.esp


ttw_femaleenclavesoldiers.esp


TTW Vehicle Scavenge.esp


uylssesbarksfix.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp


TTW - Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp


rilttwinteriorpatch.esp


Companions Relax.esp


D.C. Confidential.esp


DLC WITM - Complete.esp


ED-E Heavy Weapons.esp


ED-E Flying Fixed.esp


ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp


PlastekTeslaRiflev1.esp


Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp


ILO - Tale of Two Wastelands.esp


NewMall.esp


Halo.esp


HW-Powerfist-7UPD.esp


ProductionPlasmaRifle.esp


NV Veronica Hood n Robes Playable.esp


vault22FloralOverhaul.esp


Bzzt!.esp


TTW_BaileysCrossingMetro.esp


TTW - Fellout.esp


veronicacutenerd.esp


Rebuild Ed-E.esp


KH TTW-YUP Patch.esp


KH TTW Bugfixes.esp


TTW Perk Overhaul.esp


OWBFixes.esp


KatanaSheathRemover.esp


CouchFix.esp


Nova-Prostitute.esp


LFox Magic Fingers Perk Level 24.esp


RangerSignPatrol.esp


Newoffice.esp


Cannibal.esp


AER14 Green disintegration.esp


Real Chinese Stealth Armor (Lucky 38 Basement).esp


VeronicaRechargerPistol.esp


WMXUE-CouriersStash.esp


wmx-ttw-unified.esp


Project Nevada - TTW.esp


My Merged Patch.esp


 


Total active plugins: 136


Total plugins: 136

[/collapsed] 


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paragonskeep
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 Do you need both YUP and TTW

Post by paragonskeep » Tue May 20, 2014 5:17 am

 Do you need both YUP and TTW fixes? Also Fellout and Fellout-TTW? These may be redundant mods. If so you could further trim your load order. Check the forums on the TTW mods but I'm pretty sure they include the other as well. You also have the TTW-Bugfixes which again may be redundant based on the other mods. And the interior lighting mods. I'm not familiar with some of these because I don't use them. But looking at the order just seems that some are redundant and therefore not needed. Hope that helps from a fellow "hoarder" of mods. 


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Cannibal_Kon
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I'll look into it

Post by Cannibal_Kon » Tue May 20, 2014 5:48 am

I'll look into it paragonskeep, thank you for pointing that out, I always assume I need the parent file. I did notice YUP and TTW Fixes did a lot of the same things while I was in FNVEdit. I'll triple check tomorrow and post an update on what is and isn't needed. That way if someone has my problem they can see this and even if they don't they can still learn like I did.


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TJ
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YUP is part of TTW Fixes. TTW

Post by TJ » Tue May 20, 2014 12:18 pm

YUP is part of TTW Fixes. TTW Fellout is also a full merger of both Fellouts. If you're using RIL for FO3 and ILO for FNV, I'd merge all of RIL into it's main file, then merge that into the ILO esp. Whoever made RIL Should've merged it into an all in one, considering it was only ever modular because of people who didn't have all the DLC.


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Cannibal_Kon
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Tj I'm just going to say you

Post by Cannibal_Kon » Tue May 20, 2014 8:01 pm

Tj I'm just going to say you're a wonderful help and it's why I always direct my questions here because almost everyone is so nice and informative. That aside, thank you; I just got home and was about to start looking into that and see this post. That'll help me a ton in minimizing my load order.


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Pokepunch
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I have uploaded an all in one

Post by Pokepunch » Tue May 20, 2014 8:59 pm

I have uploaded an all in one version of RIL on the same page.



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Cannibal_Kon
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Sometimes it's hard to date

Post by Cannibal_Kon » Tue May 20, 2014 11:56 pm

Sometimes it's hard to date when those files are made and I may just skip over them if I think they be of an older version of TTW. I need to practice merging anyway so it's a good deal.


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