Best Practices for delaying a Quest for TTW Compatibility?

[TheN]

I have no idea where to put this so here it goes!

 

I have several TTW mods at this point and I'm wondering if there is an accepted best practice for delaying your quest from starting immediately. As far as I'm aware, these are the usual practices:

• 
  A check if the player is outside.
  
  This works fine for NV and -should- for FO3 unless I want to delay the quest until the player reaches the DC area.


• 
  A check if CG04 (Escaping the vault quest) is finished.
  
  Works if you start in DC, no idea what happens if you start in NV first. Probably not viable.


• 
  A check for Enclave Radio.
  
  This one sounds the best to me but is it?

So if I want a quest to start -after- the startup quest for either NV or FO3, I should probably use the outside check.

If I want the quest to start only when showing up in the DC area, I should use the enclave radio check.

 

Does that sound about right? Am I missing something? Is there a better way? :-)

[JaxFirehart]

Check for CG04 OR VCG01 completed is the way I would do it. With those conditions, the mod activates after escaping the vault or after leaving docs house.

[Gribbleshnibit8]

As jax said testing for the quests is probably the best way to do it. The way the DLC and several other vanilla quests checks is to see if either Enclave radio or Radio New Vegas are enabled, as those get enabled when you leave the respective starting areas.

[JaxFirehart]

Is there a reason for that as opposed to checking for quests? I can't imagine any reason...

[Gribbleshnibit8]

I have no clue, honestly. I know that in some cases the state of the stations is used to monitor events. For example perhaps not showing a new DLC installed while still working a previous one.

[paragonskeep]

Is it possible to leave Doc's early? I know Vault 101 you are pretty much locked in until the end, but what's keeping you from walking out of Doc's house after the Vigor test? (Is the door locked?) 

Sorry, never tried it but was wondering if that WAS a potential possibility, if it was the radio check would then make sense.

[Risewild]

Yes the door is locked IIRC.

[Gribbleshnibit8]

The door isn't just locked, its flagged as destroyed, which prevents you from interacting with it at all.

[TheN]

Thanks for the responses. :-)

It looks like we've got two options then. Radio based (Enclave and Radio New Vegas):

if RadioEnclaveRef.GetDisabled == 0 || RNVTARef.GetDisabled == 0

    Start your quest!

And quest based:

if GetQuestCompleted CG04 == 1 || GetQuestCompleted VCG01 == 1

    Start quest!

Either should work then even with stuff like Alternative Start. (Which needs a TTW version by the way. If I have to go through that stupid Vault 101 startup one more time, I'm screaming. ;-))

[TJ]

There is a TTW version... it's just not released ;)