Strange problem.

Post by **Miar** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:45 pm

Is it possible to save before the GOAT? I'd like that save file, if someone can deliver. It should solve the problem i think.

Post by **Miar** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:59 am

Komandos, lang files were unchecked since the very begining. I solved my problem by getting a save file right before GOAT. And thanks for letting me know about SFW, i'll look into it.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:15 am

I think you should rather blame the publishers and distributors in your country. This subject has been brought up on many forums and communities. It is not the policy of the developer to discriminate, they would much rather not spend the resources to create versions in other languages. This lies on the policies of the distribution network and the government in YOUR country. If you want this policy to change, you need to bring it up with THEM and not blame Bethesda or any other software house for the problem. The fact that Bethesda or other software developers chose to create a version in different languages is entirely optional and you should be grateful you can buy the game at all.

As for SFW, we do not condone or support the outright THEFT of the work of the TTW team. It is disrespectful to the amount of work the team has put into TTW, and downright RUDE. I will refrain from making any statements on how I personally feel about the attitudes and policies of eastern block countries, but I will tell you that I personally WHOLLY disagree with such practices and complete disregard of the time and effort put in by ANY group of developers or modders.

Also pulling the discrimination card in the same breath as mentioning SFW is guaranteed to score lots of care points around here.

Post by **Risewild** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:54 am

About SFW, it is not only stealing the work of the TTW team and everyone else that contributed to TTW, but also illegal and can give Bethesda legal means to shut us down. So it is a theft of other people work (TTW), distributes Bethesda assets (since they are not like us and don't seem to care about the legal implications of their actions) and can also shut us down if Bethesda decides that we are linked to them in any way (even though we tried diplomacy and ask them to come to this site and work with us in legal ways of making their project possible, when that failed we asked them to not use any of the TTW team assets, like the train stations and remove any mention of TTW or TTW related things from their site because that could get us shut down but... all we got for an answer was something like "Bethesda can't touch us since we are not in the USA!"... We tried...).

So yes, if anyone uses SFW than there is big reasons for us around here to not like them much, because they are contributing to making us quite unmotivated to work on TTW and possibly even give us some legal problems too that can see the end of TTW.

Post by **sesom** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:57 am

From someone who also lives in a eastern/central part of europe (austria) ;) .

The whole thing has nothing todo with east/west USA/Russ ...

It is simply the fact that SFW is stealing our work. It doesn't matter where they come from. If someone using TTW without permission for their own project it is stealing regardless which country they are coming from.

Post by **Miar** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:16 pm

RoyBatty, Risewild, wow... So they didn't even ask about using your work? That really is rude. I think i'd rather stick with TTW, since my problem was solved anyway.

After all, maybe if people were to think about it and ask developers of SFW on their forums (if there are some) to join your team, they actually would? (it is good, right?) Although, knowing how much people like free stuff...

Post by **sesom** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:28 pm

[quote=Komandos]

Look on steam achievements and you will see 2 FNV's ... then you will understand ( or not ) .

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The support for different languages is and was always a development goal for TTW.

The behavior of the people who made SFW (yes there where talks after we found the "fork" and also a offer to do it the right (legal) way and work on it together but it was rude refused) makes it more as unlikely that it will happen with them.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:39 pm

Kommandos: Apparently you have no knowledge of how distribution works, the laws that govern imports, and the publishing companies and laws which govern them. I suggest you do some research on the subject because you are ill informed and take it to brain.

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:27 pm

Komandos the reason there are 2 appIDs is because Bethesda didn't find it cost-effective to translate and release the game in Polish, Czech or Russian. 1C licensed the rights to translate and publish it in those languages. Because it is published by a different company, it is sold as separate software and has to have a separate appID. Otherwise people who did not buy 1C's release could still have the languages that 1C invested time and money in translating.

The only way in which this is Bethesda's "fault" is that they chose not to support every language in the world and instead stuck to the major western languages, English, German, Spanish, French, and Italian. It was a business decision and has nothing to do with "racism and discrimination" or being stuck in cold war mentality.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:29 pm

You've got a snake tongue and I took an instant dislike to you for actions. It has nothing to do with where you are from, and I damn well understand the problems in the world, we have our problems too but we don't come whining to you about them. We are all human after all, and no one is better than anyone else, just DIFFERENT.

You started out by being rude and accusatory, then promoting the theft of the teams work which not only can get US in trouble, but is a total insult. What kind of treatment do you expect? Then throw insults at us based upon where we were born when you don't know WHERE we are from? Both presumptuous and rude. Who's the bigot now?

I think you should take a moment to step outside and see things how they are and not how you think they are.

I may even get into trouble for expressing my opinion here, but I think it needs to be said. There's the door over there, kindly leave.