"PCB" Performance Issue

Post by **siuking** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:06 pm

So I have been playing a new save for about 50 hours now, and the lag is becoming unbearable.

As the game progresses, I suppose more and more quest, notes, NPC and inventory stuff needs to be loaded for the game engine? So the performance drop will happen faster and faster. Currently my save is about 10MB.

Basically I start the game with 60 fps and performance declines overtime (naturally), and as I play, fps drops and drops to around 20 in certain areas, sometimes 10; sometimes even lower than 10 fps when I open up a container/trader menu.

So when it gets to that I have to use "pcb" console command to flush the cache, and fix the drop right away.

But before that maybe i only need to do this every 30 minutes or so, but now I have to do it like every 10-15 mins. Otherwise when I open up a container menu, even my MOUSE CURSOR lags!

Places like the Pitt is even worse, it never gets above 30 fps usually. And inside the steelmill I only get about 15 fps. Even PCB command doesn't fix it.

Can someone explain to me what's going on? Is it the game engine? Is there a workround for it?

I am really getting tired of typing PCB every 10 minutes just to get a reasonable fps.

PS: when I start a new game I can get constant fps above 60, now I at most can only get 40 in areas that dont lag...

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DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

CaravanPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

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Project Nevada - Core.esm

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Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Project Nevada - TTW Vision Patch.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance [Rarity Fixes].esp

ttw_wildwasteland.esp

TTW_StartupMenu.esp

TTW_SpeechChecks.esp

TTW_Reputation.esp

TTWOptions.esp

Camon BAR + BAR LMG (Goodsprings).esp

1 Camon PKM HMG (Yangtze Memorial shack).esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

M14.esp

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SR556.esp

FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp

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M40a5.esp

MosinNagant.esp

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TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp

PickCompanionArmorandWeapons.esp

AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp

WeightlessAmmo.esp

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moremapmarkersttw_0.esp

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Total plugins: 59

Post by **Thenryb** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:08 pm

I have no answer to your technical question but here is a simple mod by drithius which allows you to assign the pcb command to a hotkey. I have used it for a long time and it works great.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/52428/?

If you use it, lose that other "pcb.esp" you have in your load order.

Post by **siuking** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:34 pm

Actually my pcb.esp is another mod made by someone else.

It simply does pcb command for me every 10 mins.

But apparently...i need to pcb the game more than once in 10 minutes...

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:26 pm

PC specs may help in this case, also a copy of your Fallout.ini, are you using ENB? What about ENBoost? 4GBFNV?

In cases when PCB helps drastically, it is almost ALWAYS a matter of RAM.

Post by **Question** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:52 am

Ive noticed this as well, although i have 16gb of ram and am using the 4gb version of NV, so it shouldnt be ram related...

I am using ENB though, although its lucent's performance preset with ambient occulsion turned off.

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bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[BlurShader]

fSunlightDimmer=1.0000

fSIEmmisiveMult=1.0000

fSISpecularMult=1.0000

fSkyBrightness=0.5000

fSunBrightness=0.0000

fAlphaAddExterior=0.2000

fAlphaAddInterior=0.7000

iBlurTexSize=256

fBlurRadius=0.0300

iNumBlurpasses=1

iBlendType=2

bUseBlurShader=0

[GethitShader]

fBlurAmmount=0.5000

fBlockedTexOffset=0.0010

fHitTexOffset=0.0050

[MESSAGES]

bBlockMessageBoxes=0

bSkipProgramFlows=1

bAllowYesToAll=1

bDisableWarning=1

iFileLogging=0

bSkipInitializationFlows=1

bUseWindowsMessageBox=0

[DistantLOD]

bUseLODLandData=0

fFadeDistance=12288.0000

iDistantLODGroupWidth=8

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

SMasterMismatchWarning=One of the files that "%s" is dependent on has changed since the last save.

This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message

but not necessarily fix any errors.

[Archive]

SInvalidationFile=

iRetainFilenameOffsetTable=1

iRetainFilenameStringTable=1

iRetainDirectoryStringTable=1

bCheckRuntimeCollisions=0

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

bUseArchives=1

SArchiveList=Fallout - AI!.bsa, Fallout - Misc.bsa, Fallout - Textures.bsa, Fallout - Textures2.bsa, Fallout - Meshes.bsa, Fallout - Voices1.bsa, Fallout - Sound.bsa

[CameraPath]

iTake=0

SDirectoryName=TestCameraPath

iFPS=60

SNif=Test\CameraPath.nif

[Absorb]

fAbsorbGlowColorB=1.0000

fAbsorbGlowColorG=0.6000

fAbsorbGlowColorR=0.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorB=1.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorG=1.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorR=1.0000

iAbsorbNumBolts=1

fAbsorbBoltGrowWidth=0.0000

fAbsorbBoltSmallWidth=7.0000

fAbsorbTortuosityVariance=2.0000

fAbsorbSegmentVariance=7.0000

fAbsorbBoltsRadius=5.0000

[TestAllCells]

bFileShowTextures=1

bFileShowIcons=1

bFileSkipIconChecks=0

bFileTestLoad=0

bFileNeededMessage=1

bFileGoneMessage=1

bFileSkipModelChecks=0

bFileCheckModelCollision=0

[CopyProtectionStrings]

SCopyProtectionMessage2=Insert the Fallout Disc.

SCopyProtectionTitle2=Fallout Disc Not Found

SCopyProtectionMessage=Unable to find a CD-ROM/DVD drive on this computer.

SCopyProtectionTitle=CD-ROM Drive Not Found

[Pipboy]

fBlurRadiusPipboy=3.5

fBlurIntensityPipboy=0.25

fScanlineScalePipboy=50

bEnableFlickerPipboy=0

bUsePipboyMode=1

[InterfaceFX]

fDefaultBurstDuration=200

fDefaultBurstIntensity=2

fMiniBurstDuration=200

fMiniBurstIntensity=1.5

;pulse effect

fPulseBrightenIntensity=0.25

fPulseRadiusIntensity=0.5

fPulseRate=0.0006

;pipboy menu transitions

fVertHoldChance=0.0

fShudderChance=0.0

fScanlineScaleMenus=50.0000

bEnableFlickerMenus=0

bEnableScanlinesMenus=0

bEnableScanlinesPipboy=0

fBlurRadiusMenus=0.3000

fBrightenMenus=1.7000

fBrightenPipboy=1.3000

bUseImageSpaceMenuFX=1

fBlurIntensityHUD=1.2000

fBlurRadiusHUD=2.0000

fScanlineFrequencyHUD=0.0000

fScreenLightBaseIntensity=0.6

fScreenLightRadius=6

[RenderedTerminal]

bUseRenderedTerminals=1

fDefault1stPersonFOV=85.0000

fRenderedTerminalZoom=36

bDoRenderedTerminalScanlines=1

fRenderedTerminalScanlineScale=130.000000

fRenderedTerminalHPos=0.0

fRenderedTerminalVPos=0.38

fScreenLightBaseIntensity=1.2

fScreenLightRadius=80

fScreenLightColorR=0.68

fScreenLightColorG=0.74

fScreenLightColorB=0.62

fRaceSexMenuHPos=0.0

fRaceSexMenuVPos=-0.6

fRaceSexMenuZoom=70.0

fRaceSexMenuScale=0.5

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=575

uMaxSkinDecals=500

uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=50

uMaxDecalCount=575

bProfileDecals=1

bDecalOcclusionQuery=1

[TerrainManager]

fSplitDistanceMult=1.50

fBlockMorphDistanceMult=0.70

bUseNewTerrainSystem=1

bUseDistantObjectBlocks=1

fBlockLoadDistance=125000.0

fDefaultBlockLoadDistanceLow=50000.0

fLowBlockLoadDistanceLow=25000.0

fHighBlockLoadDistanceLow=50000.0

fDefaultTreeLoadDistance=25000.0

fLowTreeLoadDistance=10000.0

fHighTreeLoadDistance=40000.0

[VATS]

fVATSLightLevelMin=20.0

fVATSLightLevelMax=65.0

fVATSLightAngle=0.0

fVATSLightDistance=100.0

fVATSLightElevation=100.0

fVatsLightColorR=0.35

fVatsLightColorG=0.35

fVatsLightColorB=0.35

[ScreenSplatter]

bScreenSplatterEnabled=0

[/collapsed]

Post by **RoyBatty** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:11 am

pcb is dangerous and Auto Purge plugins are even placebo and cause more problem than they fix often times.

Use the game's built in cell purging options, how to enable them is in the performance thread.

Post by **siuking** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:52 pm

PC Spec:

Core i5 3470 3.2Ghz

8GB RAM DDR3 1333

Gigabyte GTX660 Ti OC 2GB

Ordinary 1TB Harddrive

And yes I am using 4GBFNV and ENB249, I didn't know about ENB boost though

Post by **siuking** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:53 pm

Ok thanks I'll be sure to check out performance section later

Post by **siuking** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:36 pm

So I followed this guide and did the tweaks, https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/ttw-performance-guide

I will test it out

Post by **Question** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:57 am

After doing all the tweaks in the performance thread, im happy to say that performance has greatly improved, but gatling lasers still cause MASSIVE lag for me. Anyone else getting that?