.32 ammo and Shotgun shells carried by raiders

[The Unspeakable Horror]

I keep running across these when I loot raiders. They're carrying the changed weapons and appropriate ammo for them; the old ammo is in addition. It's just raiders I'm finding them on. Everything else seems fine.

It's probably some holdout from one of my other mods, but darned if I can figure out which. Just thought I'd pass it along, just in case. The only other thread I found with this issue said it was fixed in 2.0.

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[TJ]

Open all your mods in Edit. You need to have a look through all the Levelled Lists for every mod you have that's a converted FO3 mod. Any time you see one with .32 ammo in the list you're gonna remove it.

[The Unspeakable Horror]

Hmm... I'm not finding any leveled list info in any of them.

My conversions:

Project Beauty.esm

All Anchorage Armors Usable.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

ESRA BHAD SyntekShelter108.esp

The only thing that even touches raiders is Project Beauty, but that should only be changing hair and face data.

I'm going to give the game a try with it off and see what happens.

 

EDIT: No old ammo with it off, so it looks like that's it. Now to figure out how to fix it. And if I can't, it's not a huge deal. If nothing else, it's one more thing I can sell to merchants.

[Gribbleshnibit8]

[quote=The Unspeakable Horror]The only thing that even touches raiders is Project Beauty, but that should only be changing hair and face data.[/quote]

You found the answer by disabling it, but that's exactly the kind of thinking you can't have that it "ONLY" changes one thing. Changing hair and face data is a hard edit to the NPC records, and hard edits to the NPC records will override other changes. In this case you found that that mod, because it edits raiders, is causing the issue. The fix is to open it up with FNVEdit, find all the raider records it edits (should be fairly straightforward) and then find all the corresponding records in TTW and copy the TTW inventory edits over. Fairly simple, but time consuming work.

[The Unspeakable Horror]

Actually, I found out that wasn't it after all. After a couple hours of playing without it, I found some more. I've narrowed it down to just the raiders carrying the .22 revolvers and combat shotguns. I've also found .32 in a couple of ammo cans along with .22 ammo.

 

Edit: Getting even better. I reinstalled Project beauty, and now my game locks up right before the main menu. I tell you, it's just not my day.

Fixed that, at least. I forgot to make a backup of the converted file before I uninstalled. When I reinstalled, it was the original file, and needed conversion again. Derp.

Yet another edit: Updated to the most recent version of Chucksteel's TTWinteriors- "Fixes leveled lists in D.C. to no longer use .32 ammo." I'll test it after work. Hopefully this does it.

[JaxFirehart]

Didn't gribleshnibit already explain what the problem was and how to fix it?

[The Unspeakable Horror]

Yes, and once I got Project Beauty reinstalled and working again, I did that. The problem still persists, so I'm going to be digging into my other mods one by one way to see if I can track down the culprit. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to.

I appreciate the help. I wouldn't have the slightest clue where to start without it.

[JaxFirehart]

Ah I see, just wanted to make sure you saw what he said and all that.

[TJ]

Load all your mods in Edit. Then you're gonna want to build reference info. Find the editor ID of the .32 round (wiki or dig through FO3/ TTW.esm). Click the referenced by tab down at the bottom. That'll list everywhere .32 is used. Anything lower than TTW.esm that references it will need to be changed.

[The Unspeakable Horror]

Cool, thanks. That makes this a lot quicker.

Should I just remove them, or should I change them to something else?

Also, how do I remove them from raider's inventories?