Strange problem when trying to start a new game

[Wolvorine]

Okay, I just installed TTW.  I made sure I have all the required DLCs, made sure the load orders were correct, and I disabled all of my other mods (except CASM and DarnUI).  After the opening cinematic it gives me the typical popup notifications for the FONV DLCs (I have the DLCMessageSuppression.esp checked in FOMM, but I'm getting them anyway).  After those popup notices, the game immediately shows me this:

There's no animation to lead up to that, and it doesn't eventually move on to anything.  Just that.  The two human figures don't move at all, but the lights on the machinery behind them do flash like they're supposed to, so I know it's not a total lockup of the engine.  I'm kinda stumped.  Any clues?

[JaxFirehart]

Run the installer again and get me its output, I need to confirm it installed properly, also a load order is always helpful, once again, to confirm that everything is set up correctly.

[Wolvorine]

Hmm, okay.  How do I get its output?  I didn't see anything like that the first time I ran it, then again I wasn't looking for anything the first time I ran it.

[Wolvorine]

Additionally, I ran the installer again, and after it had finished with all of the DOS windows it came up with this popup

I think it may have done this the first time around too, but I can't recall.  The curious thing is I had just rebooted, and the only other program I had running was skype, so nothing could have been using Fallout_default.ini.  For redundancy's sake I DLed and installed the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable SP1 and .NET framework 4.5 the Alpha DL page indicate, even though I think I already had them.  I have no idea whatsoever why it might think the ini is in use by anything.  I also don't know what it was going to attempt to do to the ini, so that may well be the cause of the problem from my original post.  :/

[thermador]

Was this on a fresh install of New Vegas, or did you have a bunch of mod installed before and then uninstalled the mods?

The reason I ask is: there may be some leftover mod bits and pieces, or changes to INI files, that are causing this.

[JaxFirehart]

The output is the text box below options and above install. That bug is inconsequential, so don't worry about it, just poor coding in the installer that will be fixed for the next release.

Get me that output text so I can verify that the installer isn't encountering errors, also, ditto to thermador's question.

I also need a load order still.

[Wolvorine]

Thermador - It's not a fresh install of New Vegas, no.  I did do a fresh re-install not long ago, but I put the mods I usually use back in afterward.  Didn't think I might have to use a fresh, clean install for TTW.

Jax - This is the output I got from the TTW installer after running it just now:

Determining system architecture...

64-bit Architecture found!

Could Not Automatically Determine Fallout 3 Location

Fallout New Vegas was found at c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas\

Tale of Two Wastelands was found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas\

TaleOfTwoWastelands - Misc.bsa is already up to date.

Unpacking lodsettings folder...

TaleOfTwoWastelands - Meshes.bsa is already up to date.

TaleOfTwoWastelands - Sound.bsa is already up to date.

unpacking Radio Music...

TaleOfTwoWastelands - Textures.bsa is already up to date.

TaleOfTwoWastelands - MenuVoices.bsa is already up to date.

TaleOfTwoWastelands - Voices.bsa is already up to date.

Copying Fallout Music folder

Copying update music files...

Done

Copying Fallout Video folder

Copying update video files...

Done

Patching DLC .bsa files...

Anchorage - Main.bsa is already up to date.

Anchorage - Sounds.bsa is already up to date.

ThePitt - Main.bsa is already up to date.

ThePitt - Sounds.bsa is already up to date.

BrokenSteel - Main.bsa is already up to date.

BrokenSteel - Sounds.bsa is already up to date.

PointLookout - Main.bsa is already up to date.

PointLookout - Sounds.bsa is already up to date.

Zeta - Main.bsa is already up to date.

Zeta - Sounds.bsa is already up to date.

Updating DLC assets...

Fallout3.esm is already up to date.

Anchorage.esm is already up to date.

ThePitt.esm is already up to date.

BrokenSteel.esm is already up to date.

PointLookout.esm is already up to date.

Zeta.esm is already up to date.

Copying updated Tale of Two Wastelands files...

Done

 

And here's my load order as it stands currently:

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

[ ] NosCo Companion System.esm

[ ] ACM NCCS Companion Wheel.esm

[ ] domecity.esm

[ ] NVEC Complete.esm

[ ] Strangers Abroad.esm

[ ] The.Armory.esm

[ ] NVEC Complete + NVCE.esm

[ ] NVEC BugFixes + NVCE.esm

[ ] FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esm

[ ] FOOK - New Vegas.esm

[ ] NVStripOpen.esm

[ ] rePopulated Wasteland.esm

[ ] War Never Changes.esm

[ ] New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

[ ] MikotoBeauty.esm

[ ] D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

[ ] DFB - Ammo Vendor.esm

[ ] Badlands.esm

[ ] JaneV3.esm

[ ] Armor Collection.esm

[ ] SomeguySeries.esm

[X] TTW_DLCMessageSuppression.esp

[X] TTW_Bobbleheads.esp

[X] TTW_MoreCookingItems.esp

[ ] TTW_ReadiusCompatibility.esp

[ ] TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp

[ ] TTW_TQLSkip.esp

[ ] T6M Old World Blues Replace.esp

[ ] T6M Dead Money Armor.esp

[ ] T6M Female Power Armor NV.esp

[ ] T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esp

[ ] T6M Under Wear.esp

[ ] Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp

[ ] NVEC Enhancements.esp

[ ] NVEC Complete FOOK Patch.esp

[ ] NVEC Complete NVR2 Patch.esp

[X] DarNifiedUINV.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[ ] desmond companion.esp

[ ] DFB - Ammo Vendor - Caps to Money.esp

[ ] DFB - Ammo Vendor - Dead Money.esp

[ ] DFB - Ammo Vendor - Honest Hearts.esp

[ ] Sheriff Meyers.esp

[ ] housemod.esp

[ ] Armor Collection - Armor Cabinet.esp

[ ] MikotoBPWastersOverhaul.esp

[ ] ReElijahfied.esp

[ ] Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

[ ] NewVegasStripOverhaul.esp

[ ] Niner.esp

[ ] PSSignRemoval.esp

[ ] Schoolhouse Base V2.esp

[ ] Boondock Saint DEK.esp

[ ] Firefly_guns.esp

[ ] SWAT Armor.esp

[ ] Owen ArmorBerets.esp

[ ] Type3MClothing_HH.esp

[ ] Type3MClothing_OWB.esp

[ ] Type3MClothing.esp

[ ] Type 6.esp

[ ] T6M Combat Armor NV.esp

[ ] The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp

[ ] ContrerasMapMarker.esp

[ ] HTRP-Vendor Supply Refresh.esp

[ ] HTRP-Daily Vendor Restock.esp

[ ] FOOK - New Vegas.esp

[ ] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[ ] FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esp

[ ] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[ ] WPR.esp

[ ] Bobbleheads - Cases.esp

[ ] Bobbleheads - Cases_v1.2a.esp

[ ] Bobbleheads - Hidden_v1.2.esp

[ ] Bobbleheads - Not Hidden_v1.2.esp

[ ] NewVegasBounties.esp

[ ] NewVegasBountiesII.esp

[ ] War Never Changes.esp

[ ] War Never Changes - Seven.esp

[ ] CompanionDe-Equip.esp

[ ] Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

[ ] mojave music radio expanded v1.1.esp

[ ] SaveCass.esp

[ ] christinecos.esp

[ ] 1SBSteamOutfit.esp

[ ] bzArmour.esp

[ ] ReworkStuff.esp

[ ] OWB Companion Teleport.esp

[ ] OWB Moddable FIDO.esp

[ ] OWB More Vendor Caps.esp

[ ] OWB Stealth Field Suit.esp

[ ] OWB Valence Extra.esp

[ ] OWB Valence Mask.esp

[ ] VegasOutfits.esp

[ ] NVR- Lore version.esp

[ ] NVR- Recommended.esp

[ ] New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp

[ ] MMUE-CP-rePopulated.esp

[ ] GRA - The Right to Bear Arms -Vendors Untouched.esp

[ ] A Present For Boone.esp

[ ] cOMBOhEADGEARallDLC.esp

[ ] Follower Home Marker.esp

[ ] Light Step ED-E.esp

[ ] LosIlluminados.esp

[ ] RexCyberPoliceDogRetex.esp

[ ] MercWanderer.esp

[ ] NVWillow.esp

[ ] QuickHacking-NV-FullXP.esp

[ ] SunnyCompanion.esp

[ ] 101Billboards.esp

[ ] 101Posters.esp

[ ] MiscItemIconsNV.esp

[ ] T3T_MiscItemIconsNV.esp

[ ] Tactical Transportalponder.esp

[ ] The.Armory.Cabinet.Addon.esp

[ ] The.Armory.CaliberX.Patch.esp

[ ] HonestHeartsCheats.esp

[ ] EVE FNV.esp

[ ] MMUE-CP-EVE.esp

[ ] Expanded Traits - Perks.esp

[ ] Fellout.esp

[ ] Fellout-OWB.esp

[ ] FNV Vanilla hat fix with all storyline DLCs.esp

[ ] friendofnightforfellout.esp

[ ] Gunslinger.esp

[ ] BetterGamePerformanceV4.esp

[ ] bald.esp

[ ] Receding Hairstyle.esp

[ ] MikotoBeauty.esp

[ ] StripOpenMain.esp

[ ] yao guai animal friend perk.esp

[ ] Freeside Open Patch.esp

[ ] TheInheritance.esp

[ ] JTRS.esp

[ ] A Better Arcade.esp

[ ] A Better Boone.esp

[ ] A Better Cass.esp

[ ] A Better Veronica.esp

[ ] HV Mag 2.0.esp

[ ] OwenHomev02.esp

[ ] Boones Spotter Perk - Yellow.esp

 

[JaxFirehart]

Everything looks perfect... It's almost certainly a scripting or package error, except that I KNOW that load order is perfect and has no conflicts. Do you know how to work FNVEdit at all?

Is your copy of FNV American and English?

[Wolvorine]

FONV is American & English, yep.  As to FNVEdit, not...  really.  I have it, but I don't really know how to use it.

[Edit: Is it telling at all that I have the TTW_DLCMessageSuppression.esp checked, but the DLC notifications are still coming up as dialog boxes in the middle of the screen?  Don't know if that provides any additional info or not.]

[JaxFirehart]

It tells me that you have a mod conflict, except that nothing there could cause a conflict. In the TTW core file I already changed it so that the DLC doesnt show up until you exit the vault or Docs house. So SOME mod is changing those scripts.

Open your load order in FNVEdit, as in when you open FNVEdit and it asks which plugins to load don't change anything! Just click OK. It takes A WHILE to load, about 10 minutes usually.

I will need a screenshot of a few different records:

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm \ Quest \ 00102037 <VCG00>

I guess that's it to start with, but keep FNVEdit open for a bit so you don't have to wait for it to load again.