Carsh on loading saves after Vaut exit

Post by **dkunit** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Having a major problem here. After I exit Vault 101 during Escape!, it goes through the whole level up thing and giving you the new quest. Anytime a save after that sequence and try to load said saves, the game crashes. If I save in an interior like silver's house or the school, it loads fine, but the game crashes as soon as i step outside. Any save made before the exit sequence load fine. Seems like a problem with the outside world.

Specs:

Windows 8, Intel Core i7-3630M 2.40GHz, 8gb RAM

NMM v0.50.3

Fallout 3 from GOTY original disc

[collapsed title=Install LOG] [6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]   System Architecture: Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       64-bit architecture found.

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[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Anchorage.esm = 35ECD1A4DB7A531F457F2620A81FA72F

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       ThePitt.esm = C66F6A36FFCF6158959D94DB6230F156

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       BrokenSteel.esm = AFC9CA58AF0FB206157D888BAE324B9F

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Fallout3.esm = 37C5DA1ED64F003F88B3D9418344BCE7

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       PointLookout.esm = A65A464169D6570AF606C270D6825C77

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Zeta.esm = AA1C1917F75093A3348F0086C3AE57CA

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[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Found.

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[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Found.

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]   Looking for Tale of Two Wastelands

[6/27/2014 5:17:54 PM]       Default path found.

[6/27/2014 5:18:09 PM]   User manually changed Fallout 3 directory to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\

[6/27/2014 5:18:14 PM]   User manually changed Fallout New Vegas directory to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout New Vegas\

[6/27/2014 5:18:23 PM]   User manually changed Tale of Two Wastelands directory to: C:\TTW\

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[6/27/2014 9:01:39 PM]   Building TaleOfTwoWastelands - SFX.bsa.

[6/27/2014 9:01:53 PM]   Patching Fallout3.esm...

[6/27/2014 9:01:53 PM]       Fallout3.esm not found in C:\TTW\Main Files\

[6/27/2014 9:01:53 PM]       Checking C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\

[6/27/2014 9:01:57 PM]       Applying patch C:\TTWI\resources\TTW Data\TTW Patches\Fallout3.esm.BA4A85F81A71F61D4C2C9EE9E4C1081B.37C5DA1ED64F003F88B3D9418344BCE7.diff

[6/27/2014 9:02:01 PM]   Patch successful.

[6/27/2014 9:02:01 PM]   Patching Anchorage.esm...

[6/27/2014 9:02:01 PM]       Anchorage.esm not found in C:\TTW\Main Files\

[6/27/2014 9:02:02 PM]       Checking C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\

[6/27/2014 9:02:03 PM]       Applying patch C:\TTWI\resources\TTW Data\TTW Patches\Anchorage.esm.BF1E8DB35D04D9AD4B70FE9E1F6E1FD0.35ECD1A4DB7A531F457F2620A81FA72F.diff

[6/27/2014 9:02:04 PM]   Patch successful.

[6/27/2014 9:02:04 PM]   Patching ThePitt.esm...

[6/27/2014 9:02:04 PM]       ThePitt.esm not found in C:\TTW\Main Files\

[6/27/2014 9:02:04 PM]       Checking C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\

[6/27/2014 9:02:06 PM]       Applying patch C:\TTWI\resources\TTW Data\TTW Patches\ThePitt.esm.4360C3E6E561632E2F2D579AA965CBE7.C66F6A36FFCF6158959D94DB6230F156.diff

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[6/27/2014 9:02:06 PM]   Patching BrokenSteel.esm...

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[6/27/2014 9:02:07 PM]       PointLookout.esm not found in C:\TTW\Main Files\

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[6/27/2014 9:02:08 PM]       Applying patch C:\TTWI\resources\TTW Data\TTW Patches\PointLookout.esm.8F5CEF0CD937A8F8937D05F76C6F6830.A65A464169D6570AF606C270D6825C77.diff

[6/27/2014 9:02:09 PM]   Patch successful.

[6/27/2014 9:02:09 PM]   Patching Zeta.esm...

[6/27/2014 9:02:09 PM]       Zeta.esm not found in C:\TTW\Main Files\

[6/27/2014 9:02:09 PM]       Checking C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\

[6/27/2014 9:02:10 PM]       Applying patch C:\TTWI\resources\TTW Data\TTW Patches\Zeta.esm.3A6DF6CF19C6F7F786824D0DB96CE19E.AA1C1917F75093A3348F0086C3AE57CA.diff

[6/27/2014 9:02:11 PM]   Patch successful.

[6/27/2014 9:02:11 PM]   Copying Fallout3 Music

[6/27/2014 9:02:20 PM]   Done.

[6/27/2014 9:02:20 PM]   Copying Fallout3 Video

[6/27/2014 9:02:52 PM]   File Not Found:   C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data\Video\B27.bik

[6/27/2014 9:02:52 PM]   File Not Found:   C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data\Video\B28.bik

[6/27/2014 9:02:52 PM]   File Not Found:   C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data\Video\B29.bik

[6/27/2014 9:03:08 PM]   Done.

[6/27/2014 9:03:28 PM]   Building FOMODs.

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Post by **manos** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:33 pm

That's a big load order, you will have some trouble with it.

Also you shouldn't activate any mods before exiting Vault 101.

Post by **dkunit** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:49 pm

Ok. Will try that and report back.

Post by **dkunit** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:00 pm

Ok found out what the problem was. I had applied the sheson memory patch for nvse and that was making my game unstable. Removed that and game runs fine now, just loads a bit slower.

Post by **manos** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:55 pm

Strange, i'm using it without any trouble.

Which values did you set for it?

If you're using EnBoost with it maybe you've set some improper values.

Post by **dkunit** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:16 pm

I created the nvse_config.ini file and added the lines:

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=400

I also went into the stutter remover ini and set breplaceheap =1 and iheapsize to 512. I am also using NVAC 6.7.0.0. I was NOT using the Zan AutoPurge mod. Could that have been the cause?

Post by **manos** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:21 pm

I don't really know about NVAC but to me it's more something related to your load order.

Post by **scorpion** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:58 pm

[quote=dkunit]

I created the nvse_config.ini file and added the lines:

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=400

I also went into the stutter remover ini and set breplaceheap =1 and iheapsize to 512. I am also using NVAC 6.7.0.0. I was NOT using the Zan AutoPurge mod. Could that have been the cause?

[/quote]

You're expanding the heap size via NVSR and increasing the default heap size through NVSE? You have, at most, 2GiB of addressable memory available to FNV and 4GiB with the LAA flag set; this doesn't include the memory already taken up by game assets and plugins.

Try removing your changes in NVSE and NVSR to the safe defaults and seeing if the crash still occurs.

Post by **dkunit** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:05 am

What are the safe defaults? I know in NVSR it was 250.

Edit: I do have the 4gb of LAA set.