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Darkersun
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TTW adds FNV weapons to the

Post by Darkersun » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:34 pm

TTW adds FNV weapons to the FO3 Capital Wasteland, but it does not remove FO3 Assault Rifles etc.


It alters the distribution a bit, so it could be that you need a higher level than you had in FO3 to get Assault Rifles.


It combines the weapons from both games, so all FO3 weapons should be available in the capital wasteland 


(except  .32 pistol and the .32 hunting rifle, they are replaced by FNV weapons).


FNV has more weapons than FO3 had, so it can look like, that there are more FNV than F=3 weapin in the capital wasteland.


 


Hope that helps clear things up.


Regards,

Darkersun


- semi FNV Modder
- Wasteland lover

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CourierandWanderer
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Darkersun wrote:

Post by CourierandWanderer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:40 pm

[quote=Darkersun]


It alters the distribution a bit, so it could be that you need a higher level than you had in FO3 to get Assault Rifles.


[/quote]


Higher level? Are you saying that my character has to level up first in order to find these weapons? Does that include vendors?


[quote=Risewild]


The 9mm pistol was changed because that is the lower tier weapon pistol, it was changed for balance reasons, I think there was mods around here that restored it back .


[/quote]


There's a mod for that, huh? Where might I find it? Where does the TTW community keep their mods?


I found the mod for the 10mm Pistol. Now, my question to Darkersun's statement...


Oops, the mod is no longer available. I think some of you guys didn't like having it there.



TJ
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Stop being rude, and please

Post by TJ » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:29 pm

Stop being rude, and please don't double post. This wasn't some scheme we came up with to ruin your favorite game. We actually get that alot. No matter what decision we make with TTW, it's the wrong one according to someone. If you don't like TTW or aren't happy with the way it turned out: you have the same tools available to you as we do. Change it the way you want it, tons of people do. You can also release your mods here in the mod section like alot of people do. We don't care what you do with TTW, as long as it doesn't involve stealing copywrited content that could get us in trouble.


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CDTalmas
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Wanna know WHY the mod's not

Post by CDTalmas » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:30 pm

Wanna know WHY the mod's not available? Because the [b]server hosting it[/b] decided to purge old files.



CourierandWanderer
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I'm being rude? Excuse me,

Post by CourierandWanderer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:15 pm

I'm being rude? Excuse me, but I wasn't told that double-posting was illegal. I did it in many other forum sites and got away with it. and furthermore, I do have respect for you people. What you have created has stirred many Fallout and Bethesda fans. I'll enjoy it however I want, if that's not a problem for you.


I still have my question with Darkersun, something about leveling up to get certain weapons? If you don't like my other question, then don't answer it.



TJ
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Being rude. You're kind of

Post by TJ » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:21 pm

Being rude. You're kind of insinuating we broke your favorite game. If you want to play FO3... play FO3. As for levelling up to earn certain items. Open FNVEdit and look at levelled Items / Levelled creatures. You'll see each thing has a level requirement. Set them to 1 for anything you want to show up.


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CourierandWanderer
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In what way am I insinuating?

Post by CourierandWanderer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:23 pm

In what way am I insinuating? Stop twisting my words. You misunderstand me.



TrickyVein
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I'm not seeing a lot of

Post by TrickyVein » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:39 pm

I'm not seeing a lot of productive discussion going on here. 


OP wanted to know more about the distribution and types of weapons in TTW which has been plainly answered.


Please stay on topic.



CourierandWanderer
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Thank you. And you know what?

Post by CourierandWanderer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Thank you. And you know what? I'll forget about the 10mm Pistol and the rest of the weapons. If it is related to leveling your character, then that's something I'll go for without arguing. I'm sorry for stomping on your guys' ego. Guilty!



JaxFirehart
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This had nothing to do with

Post by JaxFirehart » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:28 pm

This had nothing to do with ego. It had to do with your inability to read AND COMPREHEND what we were saying, let me lay it out for you:


Your first post (emphasis added):


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


 I'm seeing more FNV weapons than FO3 ones.


[/quote]


Implies that you have seen some FO3 ones, and so Puppetron replies with:


[quote="Puppetron"]


you're wondering why there's twice as many fnv weapons than fo3 weapons?  it's because there's twice as many fnv weapons than fo3 weapons.


[/quote]


Now, he could have been clearer, saying that FNV weapons are more common, but in your previous post you had already remarked on that.


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


But why?


[/quote]


Emphasis added:


[quote="Puppetron"]


because FNV added a ton of new weapons to the game.  so when we added the two sets of equipment together, fnv weapons to all the relevant lists and tiers, we ended up with, shocker, lots of fnv weapons.


[/quote]


Again he could have said lots more FNV than FO3 but we are still under the impression that you already knew they were more common.


Emphasis added:


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


Wait, so there's not going to be FO3 weapons all because FNV has more variants? Why not combine the both of them? I miss the Chinese Assault Rifle and some of the other weapons. The weapons for FNV are good, but why not have both?   I think someone would want to make a mod for that.


[/quote]


Notice how you ask why we didn't combine them together RIGHT AFTER Puppetron states that we added them together? Maybe now Puppetron's next post makes more sense:


[quote="Puppetron"]


are you reading these at all?  yes.  the fo3 weapons are in the game.  they share lists with appropriate leveled of lists.  since there's so many more fnv weapons though, you're going to see a lot more fnv weapons.


[/quote]


Now I'm going to fastforward a bit.


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


Oops, the mod is no longer available. I think some of you guys didn't like having it there.


[/quote]


Emphasis added:


[quote="TJ"]


Stop being rude, and please don't double post. This wasn't some scheme we came up with to ruin your favorite game.


[/quote]


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


I'm being rude? Excuse me, but I wasn't told that double-posting was illegal. I did it in many other forum sites and got away with it. and furthermore, I do have respect for you people. What you have created has stirred many Fallout and Bethesda fans. I'll enjoy it however I want, if that's not a problem for you.   I still have my question with Darkersun, something about leveling up to get certain weapons? If you don't like my other question, then don't answer it.


[/quote]


Try reading that again and see if you can spot where you were being rude.


Okay did you try? Alright I'll point them out to you:


"Excuse me, but I wasn't told that double-posting was illegal." He asked you to please not double post, but his reference to rudeness wasn't to that.


"I'll enjoy it however I want, if that's not a problem for you." Again with the insinuation that we are somehow deliberately ruining the game just for you. And this AFTER TJ mentioned that you are free to mod TTW however you want.


"I still have my question with Darkersun, something about leveling up to get certain weapons? If you don't like my other question, then don't answer it." Entitled much?


[quote="TJ"]


Being rude. You're kind of insinuating we broke your favorite game. If you want to play FO3... play FO3. As for levelling up to earn certain items. Open FNVEdit and look at levelled Items / Levelled creatures. You'll see each thing has a level requirement. Set them to 1 for anything you want to show up.


[/quote]


Again, he says you are being rude and yet STILL tells you how to fix this thing you have a problem with.


[quote="CourierandWanderer"]


In what way am I insinuating? Stop twisting my words. You misunderstand me.


[/quote]


Hopefully I've explained this well enough that you can understand where the misunderstanding has come from.


And now we are full circle. I hope you enjoy TTW, we make it available to everyone but we can't please everyone and I'm sorry we didn't please you. As TJ said, every decision pisses someone off, but at least the game is moddable so you can fix the things you dislike.


If you choose to respond, please choose your words carefully so there aren't any more misunderstandings.



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