Charisma Bobblehead (Optionnal Bobblehead esp)

[Rukaven]

So I went away from playing TTW for a bit. I'm level 31, I've taken the Almost Perfect perk aswell as Ant Sight and I have The Lucky 8 Ball. But for some reason I also have 10 Charisma. I've not been to Vegas yet so don't have any Implants and I've not taken Intense Training at all. Before I stopped playing I collected every Bobblehead. I didn't notice the increase at the time, only now when I came to play the game again. I checked through all my perks to make sure but none increase Charisma. I have no mods installed, only the Base TTW. So is it possible that, even with the Bobblehead esp, this one still gives a +1 to Charisma?

I was using 2.63 at the time if that helps, I have since upgraded to 2.72. It's not a problem or anything I'm just wondering where this extra point come from as it threw me off a little.



EDIT: Also apologies if this is in the wrong section, new to posting here. I normally lurk and read what's alreadfy been posted.

[Decker]

I can confirm this, I also mysteriously got an extra point of Charisma for my character. I've got all Bobbleheads except Energy Weapons collected, and I am using the optional bobbleheads esp, also took the Almost Perfect perk. This could be Charisma bobblehead still giving +1 CHA or something else entirely.

My character was under the influence of alcohol (charisma +1 amongst the temporary effects of alcohol) when leveling up and taking the Almost Perfect perk, although I find this doubtful (it does not show under Effects anymore) maybe the +1 CHA from Beer somehow became permanent?

Note: At the time, I was doing the Superhuman Gambit quest, being drunk for that quest in particular seemed to make sense, in adding immersion, roleplaying the character kind of way.

 

[Rukaven]

I'm glad I'm not the only one then. At first I thought it may have something to do with me having the Enclave Hellfire Helmet equipped at the time since it gives -1 CHA. I thought Almost Perfect may have put the stat to 9 while the helmet was equipped, so taking it off made it 10. But that's when I remembered about picking up the Bobblehead a little after getting to level 30. 



I guess we'll have to wait to see if more people end up with the same result.

[Risewild]

Finally got some time and motivation to test reported stuff, and my conclusion in this is that:

Yes, the Charisma Bobblehead still gives +1 Charisma when picked up even with the optional TTW_Bobbleheads.esp file active.

Thanks for reporting this guys, it would take me a long time to go to vault 108 and pick up this bobblehead while testing since I always test DLC's first.

[Risewild]

The Strength Bobblehead is still in the same place in Lucas Simms house, no Bobblehead location were changed .