Enemy Leveling

Post by **TrickyVein** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:53 pm

After starting a new game with TTW 2.1a and at level 2, while wandering around Vault 106 and the Jury St. Metro Station in the Capital Wasteland I have encountered:

1) A Yao Guai random encounter

2) Raiders with heavy incinerators

I guess I'm curious if changes have been made to the leveled lists of enemies or if the game was made to be more of a challenge for low-level characters. Vanilla Fallout 3 was buggy too, so these encounters so far aren't really serious 'errors,' but I thought I'd like to start a thread to keep track of seemingly odd or questionable balancing issues like the examples I just mentioned. And then tease apart if it's an intentional change from vanilla or something overlooked.

Have others encountered enemies touting weapons far better than what should be available to them? Even higher-level enemies that we know the PC shouldn't encounter until level X?

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:54 pm

I ran into a Deathclaw at 6 yesterday, quite strange. TTW overhauled the leveled lists a bit to give DC enemies some NV weapons, but you shouldn't see heavy incinerators on raiders at all and not on anyone else to at least 15.

Post by **sesom** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:59 pm

There are special encounters which includes Yao Guai and Deatclaw which can happen in every level of the player. The Yao Guai is a pet of a merchant and is peaceful as long as the merchant lives. The Deathclaw is alone but wounded and crippled. Maybe it was them.

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:01 pm

You know the deathclaw was fairly easy to kill... you may be right.

Post by **TrickyVein** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:41 pm

I'm not worried about the Yao Guai, and I think everyone's encountered a deathclaw somewhere at level 2 - If I run into any more raiders toting big guns I'll make a note.

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:49 am

Incinerators and, maybe Flamers may turn up at times, but no other big guns (maybe the grenade rifle or launcher, not perfectly certain).

Also, TrickyVein, I read that you just manually extracted your FO3 assets. Be warned that there are updated assets in the .bsa files that the installer creates so you may encounter some missing meshes and the weapons may not be sighted properly, among other things. I am working on a fix but am also pretty busy today.

Post by **TrickyVein** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:14 am

I know - I'm going to assume that every problem I encounter is my own doing. You're off the hook on this one :)

I can confirm that some enemies do have the grenade rifle, as you mentioned.

Post by **Risewild** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:23 am

I just spent a lot of time walking around in search of raiders to see what weapons they carry, I am level 7, the biggest weapon I saw was a Flamer.

Post by **bigbobblehead** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:47 am

Oh god on my way to primm at the beginning of one of my playthroughs of vanilla nv, heading towards primm, i stopped into that police station and those jackle gangs beaches had Grenade launchers.. talking about close quarters huh. AI isn't that intelligent

Post by **bigbobblehead** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:48 am

killed me and themselves as well haha