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Wild Wasteland optional ideas

Post by TAWM » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:46 pm

The Wild Wasteland optional for TTW that adds Wild Wasteland feature to the capital wasteland and it's DLCs is being removed for 3.0 and will come back later and if I remember correctly it's due to it's lack of quality content.  So I figured I would throw out some ideas I have for the wild wasteland optional.


 


1) Integrate the mod TTW The Family into Wild Wasteland optional


http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/60762/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D60762%26preview%3D&pUp=1


This mod has exactly the type of twilight zone feeling that wild wasteland should have but currently doesn't.  The Mod is simple in that it turns the Family into real vampires instead of vampire posers.  It's silly as hell but it's extremely awesome and this mod is something I always have whenever I play TTW.  The only downside is the needing to get permission from the mod author and also from the other mod authors whose assets are used in the mod.


 


2) Arlington Cemetery night of the living dead reference


Outside of Arlington House have a dead npc named Johnny by one of the graves with a female NPC named Barbara fleeing a ghoul who is chasing her with here running into the Arlington House.  In the movie Night of the living dead Johnny and Barbara are visiting their mother's grave and Johnny is attacked by a zombie and dies and you have Barbara flee to a nearby house during the zombie apocalypse.   


 


3) Point Lookout Jason Voorhees encounter




This is actually easy to do with the jumpsuit, hockey mask and machete already being in the vanilla game.  Give Jason Voorhees Supermutant Gargantuan health stats from MMM, make his equipment unlootable and have his machete do like 100 damage.  Point Lookout actually works for pretty well as a fill in for camp crystal lake. 


 


4) Mothership Zeta Star Wars encounter


When you are fighting your way through Mothership Zeta have a new interior cell with a bunch of dead jedi and aliens and sith fighting it out that you have to kill.  Upon killing the Sith you can loot all the Jedi and Sith for various colored lightsabers red, black, green, blue, white, etc.  Since the author of the mod Lightsabers said you can do what you want with the mod and jlf65 added sounds and light to the light sabers in TTW verision of the mod this would actually be pretty cool if jlf65 is fine with his updates being in Wild Wasteland. 


 


5) Mothership Zeta Famous Missing people encounter


Another added interior cell in the cryogenic lab in which you would find the dead bodies of Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, DB Cooper, etc


 


6) Operation Anchorage Dr Strange Love radio announcement


After getting to base camp in the operation anchorage and leaving General Chase's tent you would pickup a radio signal and it would be playing Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper's orders for to secure the base ie camp and when leaving the camp you would see US Troops approaching the camp and getting fired upon and killed by their fellow troops.  Basically like how in the movie nutjob General Ripper ordered his men to fire upon anyone approaching the base stating they would be commies all the while ranted about protecting his bodily fluids buying time to kick start WW3.  The big problem with this would be taking audio directly from the movie and that would be dealing with copyright...or needing to use a voice actor.  Definitely need a Dr Strangelove Wild Wasteland encounter seeing as how OA is heavily influenced by it. 


 


 


I'll think of some more to add later. 


 


 


 


 


 



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All my mods are always WTFPL,

Post by jlf65 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:27 pm

All my mods are always WTFPL, so that would be fine. laugh  You just have to follow any other requirements (if any) for anything they use.


Another idea for Arlington Cemetery would a named skeleton alluding to Saving Private Ryan.


I'm not certain Jason works with PL... maybe a van with four human skeletons and a ghoul dog. wink  Point Lookout is JUST the kind of place they found "mysteries".



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I like these pop culture

Post by RoyBatty » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:40 pm

I like these pop culture references, I wouldn't implement them that way but keep them coming.


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Got some more ideas for Wild

Post by TAWM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:22 am

Got some more ideas for Wild Wasteland Optional


 


7) Ghoul Frank Castle Assault on Evergreen Mills encounter


Upon entering Evergreen Mills foundry you encounter a Ghoul named Frank with a skull painted on his black combat armor attacking and killing the raiders inside.  This is obviously a reference to marvel comics the Punisher.  A fun fact if you all ever read the Garth Ennis run of the Punisher MAX which is considered to be the best Punisher comic book run ever there was a one shot called The Punisher: The End and it was about Frank Castle dealing out justice in post apocalypse New York City after a nuclear war between the United States and China.  Even a nuclear war and the post apocalypse won't stop the Punisher from dealing out justice.  


 




8) Xenomorphs in biological research on Mothership Zeta




Humans weren't the only things the aliens on Mothership Zeta were experimenting on!  Besides running into abominations in biological research you also run into Xenomorphs as well with Xenomorphs, Abominations and Zeta Aliens all fighting each other and attacking you on site.  


For those that don't know Xenomporphs are the aliens from the Alien movie franchise.  I know they are mods out their with the Xenomorphs but doing a quick search on Nexus it seems like they are old and were pulled off the nexus.  So while the assets were made for this whether or not they are available still and if permission can be given is unknown.  


 




9) Attack of the 50ft woman encounter




It's already a mod made for Fallout 3 and their is a TTW version of it on this site as well and while it could use a little work ie the 50ft woman not being able to loot a Chinese Assault Rifle off a dead raider and use it.  Still the mod does definitely fit the whole wacky wild wasteland theme.  The issue is getting permission from the mod author to use it.


 




10) Blair Witch in Point Lookout encounter


In this wild wasteland encounter you encounter a bunch of humaniod stick figures and see a male npc standing facing a wall as you approach the npc you get knocked out and wake up sideways on the ground.  Upon awaking the man who was facing the wall is gone.   


For everyone who remembers the 90's movie Blair Witch Project in the movie the "documentary team" ​keep finding the strange stick symbols in the woods and at the end of the movie the chick in the film finds the one dude just staring at the wall before the camera and her get knocked to the ground with the movie ending.


Interesting thing about Point Lookout is that it has cut content about witchcraft in it and you have the whole Krivbeknih as well.  So the Blair Witch pop culture reference isn't really out of place considering witchcraft is in Point Lookout and both the movie and Point Lookout are located in rural Maryland.  


 


11) The Terminator in Springvale


Upon leaving Vault 101 when entering Springvale right before entering town you see what appears to be a pulse explosion and a naked man appear out of it.  The man walks to the nuka cola machine which has three raiders hanging out by it and demands their clothes which prompts the three raiders to pull out switchblades and attack the naked man who easily kills all 3 of them taking their clothes with him wandering off into the wasteland. 


Obviously this is a reference to the original Terminator movie.  The pulse explosion in the vanilla game would work as the whole time travel effect.       


 


12) Pint Sized Slasher encounter in Point Lookout




Upon leaving the room with the Pint Sized Slasher mask in Point Lookout you are attacked by none other than the Pint Sized Slasher.  This is ingame reference to the legend of the Pint Sized Slasher which if you choose the negative karma path in Tranquility Lane has you act out the legend killing all the residents.  



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jlf65 wrote:

Post by TAWM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:26 am

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All my mods are always WTFPL, so that would be fine.   You just have to follow any other requirements (if any) for anything they use.


Another idea for Arlington Cemetery would a named skeleton alluding to Saving Private Ryan.


I'm not certain Jason works with PL... maybe a van with four human skeletons and a ghoul dog.   Point Lookout is JUST the kind of place they found "mysteries".


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How about a double dip?  When you encounter Jason you see the bodies 4 dead npcs and one dead dog the names of the dead npcs are Shaggy, Fred, Daphne and Velma with dog being called Scooby-Doo.  You find a note on their corpses about investigating rumors in Point Lookout of a hockey mask wearing madman.    



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That would work. I love Wild

Post by jlf65 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:49 pm

That would work. I love Wild Wasteland, and would love to see DC content. I like the Blair Witch idea for PL - it suits the little dolls hanging everywhere.


You have to watch certain things... for example, anything with predators or aliens. Fox is REALLY anal about its "IP" and goes after anything related as they discover it, which is the real reason most Alien/Predator mods on Nexus disappear pretty quick. I'd probably avoid anything by Nintendo as well. Since the last buy-out, Atari is now owned by a group of lawyers whose only interests are in "monetizing" their assets (i.e., IP on old games), so I'd probably be careful about Atari references as well.



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Blair Witch is no, I hate

Post by RoyBatty » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:40 pm

Blair Witch is no, I hate that "movie".


No Xenomorphs, Terminators or Predators either.


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Yea I'd stay away from

Post by paragonskeep » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:48 pm

Yea I'd stay away from anything copyrighted or trademarked. Inspired by ie Dunwich building is probably ok as is satire or parody as those are except from copyright infringement. That's why "spiderpig" was ok on the Simpsons


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My own thoughts, the older

Post by jlf65 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16 pm

My own thoughts, the older the movie/story/whatever the reference alludes to, the better. For example, old Ed Wood movie reference > Twilight reference. So maybe one of the skeletons in a DC office building is named "Glen", but has a long blonde wig.



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paragonskeep wrote:

Post by TAWM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:24 pm

[quote=paragonskeep]


 


Yea I'd stay away from anything copyrighted or trademarked. Inspired by ie Dunwich building is probably ok as is satire or parody as those are except from copyright infringement. That's why "spiderpig" was ok on the Simpsons


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[quote=jlf65]


 


My own thoughts, the older the movie/story/whatever the reference alludes to, the better. For example, old Ed Wood movie reference > Twilight reference. So maybe one of the skeletons in a DC office building is named "Glen", but has a long blonde wig.


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As far as copyrighted stuff goes it really depends...if you ever uploaded anything online to YouTube for example if you have so much as a single second of a copyrighted song play in the background your video gets blocked worldwide now before you can even publish it online and get a single view. 


On the other hand you have things like POWER/RANGERS UNAUTHORIZED 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90




available online even though it definitely walks a thin line copyright infringement.


 


Things like Xenomorphs might be something FOX just goes after right away.  Other things like the Punisher symbol which is trademarked by Marvel Comics which is owned now by Disney who doesn't play around when it comes to trademarks are not going after all mods...and there are many many punisher made mods and fan made films as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mDc485P630  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc  


Yet Disney isn't going after them all.  So this really just depends.  Honestly I think my idea for the Operation Anchorage Dr Strangelove parody is the most likely of my suggestions to get hit with copyright. 


 


 



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