TTW Progress Report

[thermador]

BYFEE, I have also made a couple of other transport mods if the train doesn't suit you:

http://www.taleoftwowastelands.com/content/rel-alpha-ttw-vertibird-transport-v3

http://www.taleoftwowastelands.com/content/rel-alpha-bigmt-transportalponder-upgrade

The problem that will always affect projects like TTW is how to manage the timeline issues.  Even without my transport mods, the first time you travel on the train in TTW, 9 years go by.  But if you take the train back to DC, everything is the same as it was when you left. 

So unless time travel is involved (which to my knowledge has never been implemented in the Fallout universe) you just have to assume that things are kind of in a holding pattern unless the courier/lone wanderer gets involved and shakes things up.  To me, this is pretty easy to accept, since as we know, war... war never changes.

[JaxFirehart]

Yeah the worst part is the kids that don't grow up...

[JaxFirehart]

OK I gotta know, what is everyone's beef with the train? You are born in V101, grow up, escape the vault, hop on a train and whiteout with your next memory of getting shot in the head and then waking up in Mitchel's house. You then spend the remainder of FNV picking up tidbits of what happened before getting on that train and getting shot.

Not trying to bash your ideas at all, they are clever and interesting and would be cool to see. I just don't understand why so many people hate on the train...

[JaxFirehart]

I like hearing opinions. Surprisingly the reason you dislike the train is exactly why we picked it. TTW was never supposed to be its own game, it is supposed to tie FO3 and FNV together while upgrading FO3 so that the two wastelands felt coherent, so we picked the train to keep things simple. But thats the beauty of mods, I even built a system into TTW that allowed mods to hijack our transition code (just the stuff that turns off radios and sets variables and all that) so that any transport mods will always be up to date.

I look forward to your alternate travel mods, I see people making TTW mods as an indication that we are doing something right. Way back before this site was even formed, we kicked around a mod idea we called the inception mod. Each time you went to sleep, you swapped wastelands, as if you were remembering the CW as you slept in NV. It was completely doable and potentially awesome. I would still love to see it released as an optional add-on, but we are trying to make a bare minimum of changes with TTW. Just enough to merge the games without ruining either one.

[TJ]

... I thought the train was a grand idea... I've also actually used the magic sewer. Honestly don't feel like there's any room for hate on the train station. It's pretty sick, and comes with an open invitation for anyone to make a transport mod.

[thermador]

[quote=JaxFirehart]

Way back before this site was even formed, we kicked around a mod idea we called the inception mod. Each time you went to sleep, you swapped wastelands, as if you were remembering the CW as you slept in NV. It was completely doable and potentially awesome. I would still love to see it released as an optional add-on, but we are trying to make a bare minimum of changes with TTW. Just enough to merge the games without ruining either one.

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I would play that :-)

[gnubee]

I might have a preliminary version of the inception mod around somewhere that someone else from the old forum made. There was an issue with the conditions in the scripting that prevented it from working though.  The idea of it was to allow an easy way back to the CW if you chose to start the game in NV.  I suspect it could still work even if you start in DC.  Might make for a strange playthrough though.

[tizerist]

The train station serves an adequate purpose. I think it was done excellently too.

I'd love to see it linked onto Rez's DC Subway. Like, connect the 2 systems at a common station.

[Risewild]

[quote=thermador]

BYFEE, I have also made a couple of other transport mods if the train doesn't suit you:

http://www.taleoftwowastelands.com/content/rel-alpha-ttw-vertibird-trans...

http://www.taleoftwowastelands.com/content/rel-alpha-bigmt-transportalpo...

The problem that will always affect projects like TTW is how to manage the timeline issues.  Even without my transport mods, the first time you travel on the train in TTW, 9 years go by.  But if you take the train back to DC, everything is the same as it was when you left. 

So unless time travel is involved (which to my knowledge has never been implemented in the Fallout universe) you just have to assume that things are kind of in a holding pattern unless the courier/lone wanderer gets involved and shakes things up.  To me, this is pretty easy to accept, since as we know, war... war never changes.

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Actually time travel existed as a Special Encounter in Fallout 2 I remember because we would get a unique weapon from it.

Guardian of Forever

[Befo]

[quote=Risewild]

Actually time travel existed as a Special Encounter in Fallout 2 I remember because we would get a unique weapon from it.

Guardian of Forever

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I totally remember that encounter. My inner Trek geek loved it.