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[BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

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[BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by Laclongquan » Sun May 30, 2021 11:22 am

Just recently checking the Arlington Cemetery area and discover a few areas dont leveled with character

- Arlington Utility and DCTA tunnel 014-B Potomac has raiders at 25 HP. Surely that's the basic template?

- Mama Dolce's with the Chinese Remnants also doesnt feel leveled up with character. Remnants seem to be their basic template, which is higher than basic raider, but still too low 50-75 HP. I know they are armed with Chinese weapons and clothings as theme, but shouldnt their HP up to 100+ at least if not 200+? The Talons chased after our ass and SM are 300 already. And if they leveled up, maybe increase their loots too? Not the weapons (because theme) but maybe adding more Sugar Bombs onto that. SB is highly demanded (Murphy's Ultrajet) so it would be welcomed trade goods.
EDIT: second run, coc into this cell and the remnants are 25HP with some slightly higher with PC at level 4 and 20. So 75 would be maxed stat then. Not bug, just terribly low quality template.

- Also the Evergreen Mills area. The raiders wander this area the first time we visit would be basic template. I visited at 20+ (just because) and that's frankly too easy. Sitting atop their building shooting down is like shooting fishes in a barrel. They cant even retaliate effectively.
++++ 2nd run, test this with a level 20 character, and while there's some 25HP left, there's about 1/3 or 1/2 is 80-90HP.

Just a feedback for your next update~
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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by RoyBatty » Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:57 pm

Some areas are level locked, or locked to the level you are when you enter them the first time. It's intended.
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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by Laclongquan » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:48 am

All I mentioned are first visits.

But yeah, i also noticed the level locked to 1st visit in later visit in OTHER areas than those.

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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:06 am

If they share an Encounter Zone then it will be that way yes.
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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by Laclongquan » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:26 pm

Raven Rock is halfful with 25 HP enclave troopers.

Seriously, this really shouldnt be allowed.

Raven Rock is supposedly second to last final dungeon of Fallout3, discounting Broken Steel addon.

So player should be here at 20+ level. The enclave troopers' equipment reflecting that: power armor and energy weaponry.

But 25HP just doesnt cut it. At extended range of a sniper rifle, hell, just a crouching light machine gun can take that down in one burst. If I feel the bother, an indoor mininuke will crush them to piece.

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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by RoyBatty » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:54 pm

That's on purpose because a lot of stuff in Raven Rock is staged and would break otherwise.
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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by Laclongquan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:35 am

Okay,okay~ If it's on purpose, it's not bug.

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Re: [BUG?] Areas not leveled with character ?!~

Post by Laclongquan » Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:03 am

After several runs, i finally determine a better method to deal with this. Beware: its a fully new way to play.

Before getting out of v101 tunnel use console command

Player.setlevel 16

This will drive your level up to 16 with hp increase. But no skill, no perk. This mean wherever you go, you are in high level and limit the number of 25hp fodders.

Any increase in skill must wait until next level up or finding books during your exploration. This actually reward you with satisfaction after scavenging though areas.

Why 16? Some quest scale reward to level and 16 should be highest threshold

More importantly you can delay the time of 100 allskill to much later. Normally you achieve that around 20. Now that delay until 30.

Extra tough would be
Player.rewardxp -33333
This delay the time until next levelup much further.

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