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Strange Save crash

Post by Potato95 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:54 pm

Hi!
As said in the title, I'm getting some strange save crash, right outside Agatha's House, after I got her quest. Anytime I save after getting out of her house the game simply doesn't load up, I always get the infinite load screen.

Strangely enough, if I load most of my previous save, the game load up just fine, at GNR, Megaton, inside Agatha's house even, but not outside (it crashes in my save in the surrounding areas, just before getting inside her house). I tried fast traveling to Megaton after getting her quest, saved the game and I still got the crash. Maybe it's tied to the quest, the script, or the area? I think the latter is the least possible one though, but anything is possible.

I admit I was using a scripted mod for New Vegas only, changing the way the Pip-Boy light works, but it's been working since outside GNR, and it only changes the Pip-Boy light, so I don't think the two can be related.

Dynamic Pipboy Light - Fallout New Vegas mod, updated in Sep. 2019.
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64023

My Load Order:

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FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
YUPTTW.esm
Functional Post Game Ending.esm  -- # TTW support
Regulators.esm -- # TTW version
light2test.esp
TTW Lone Courier Dialouge - DC Origins.esp
TTW Lone Courier Dialogue - Vegas Origins.esp  -- Disabled
JSawyer Ultimate.esp
BONED - TTW.esp
JSawyer Ultimate - GRA Merged.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
FOVSlider.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
JSawyer Ultimate - TTW Patch.esp
LootMenu.esp
TTW Tell Dad About Jonas.esp
Dynamic Pipboy Light.esp -- Now Disabled
CASM with MCM.esp
Also, should the FOV Slider be under MCM as it's it master? Could this be causing a random crash even after hours of gameplay?
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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Risewild » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:32 am

I have no idea why that is happening, but I will say it could be JSawyer Ultimate. I heard people having crashes and other problems using JSU and TTW.

Well to be honest I heard people having trouble even in FNV using JSU, but this was quite a while ago so it could have been fixed by now.
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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Lyndi » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 am

JSU hasn't been fixed, it's still a broken mess. Though I thought those problems were mostly in Point Lookout.

Are you using any mesh or texture replacers? you could have a bad mesh or something on a creature or object in the area crashing the game.
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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Potato95 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Risewild wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:32 am
I have no idea why that is happening, but I will say it could be JSawyer Ultimate. I heard people having crashes and other problems using JSU and TTW.

Well to be honest I heard people having trouble even in FNV using JSU, but this was quite a while ago so it could have been fixed by now.
Well, I'm not using the JSawyer original mod, I'm using the remade one with a patch for TTW 3.2.x. Maybe it's unstable all the same?

JSawyer Ultimate Edition -- Updated in Mar. 2019 (it got updated after the patch, which didn't get an update. Maybe unstable or has a lot of conflicts?)
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592

JSawyer Ultimate Edition TTW Patch -- Updated in Feb. 2019 (maybe that's why?)
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66462

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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Potato95 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:12 am

Lyndi wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 am
JSU hasn't been fixed, it's still a broken mess. Though I thought those problems were mostly in Point Lookout.

Are you using any mesh or texture replacers? you could have a bad mesh or something on a creature or object in the area crashing the game.
I do have

1. NMC's texture with the cleanup process for TTW from Roy himself ¹
2. A texture replacer for one piece of armor unique to New Vegas' Lonesome Road DLC (the Elite Riot Gear), so I don't think it's the culprit;
3. BONED ² -- a mod that alters the meshes, textures and the level list from the DC Enclave to have other PA's at their disposal -- TTW version, updated in Oct. - Nov. 2019. (Maybe it's outdated for 3.2.2 ?) I'm not using the optional files though, just the mod itself.

¹ viewtopic.php?f=55&t=4205
² https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65814

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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Lyndi » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:47 pm

JSU never has been fixed correctly. It's had problems for years. I'd scrap it and get SawyerBatty, it does what it's supposed to without causing crashes. It probably isn't causing this particular crash, but you might want to try it anyway.

nMC I've used myself without problems, can't say for BONED though. Not something I've personally used.
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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by RoyBatty » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm

remove CASM and use stewies tweaks.
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Re: Strange Save crash

Post by Potato95 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:18 pm

Lyndi wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:47 pm
JSU never has been fixed correctly. It's had problems for years. I'd scrap it and get SawyerBatty, it does what it's supposed to without causing crashes. It probably isn't causing this particular crash, but you might want to try it anyway.

NMC I've used myself without problems, can't say for BONED though. Not something I've personally used.
RoyBatty wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm
Remove CASM and use stewies tweaks.
I removed JSU, removed CASM, installed SawyerBatty and went on a new playthrough (for the 4th time, urgh). Just got to the Citadel, completed Agatha`s quest, almost 20 hours in-game and it's working. Thanks for the help guys.

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