Knight Captain Durga

Post by **TheEntiretyOfCancoon** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:41 pm

I'm unsure if this is where I'm supposed to put this, but I've been having trouble with Knight Captain Durga. She will not have any dialogue options other than the one to exit the conversation, making me unable to trade with her. On the wiki it said that getting into broken steel would automatically allow me to trade with her, but this is also not the case, and I still only have the option to leave the conversation. Any help given would be appreciated. Here's my

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1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

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5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a Fallout3.esm

11 b Anchorage.esm

12 c ThePitt.esm

13 d BrokenSteel.esm

14 e PointLookout.esm

15 f Zeta.esm

16 10 TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

17 11 Project Nevada - Core.esm

18 12 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

19 13 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

20 14 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

21 15 Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

22 16 JIP Selective-Fire.esm

23 17 TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp

24 18 TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp

25 19 TTW_OutcastTrading.esp

26 1a TTW_Reputation.esp

27 1b TTW_SpeechChecks.esp

28 1c TTW_StartupMenu.esp

29 1d TTW_StashPackOptions.esp

30 1e ttw_wildwasteland.esp

31 1f TTWOptions.esp

32 20 DeadMoneyFemaleTuxedo.esp

33 21 Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

34 22 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

35 23 Root 'n Loot.esp

36 24 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

37 25 CASM with MCM.esp

38 26 JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

39 27 JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

40 28 JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

41 29 NPCs Consume Ammo.esp

42 2a The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

43 2b pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

44 2c TTW FO3&NV&DLC Killable Children.esp

45 2d MetroCars.esp

46 2e Project Nevada - TTW.esp

47 2f SenterPats Weapon Pack.esp

48 30 BOE Diversified.esp

49 31 TTWVaultSuitHotfix.esp

50 32 BOED OA.esp

51 33 BOED TP.esp

52 34 BOED BS.esp

53 35 BOED BS Optional.esp

54 36 WazerWifle.esp

55 37 BNE Diversified TTW.esp

56 38 BOE Diversified Optional.esp

57 39 BOED Power Armor Scaling.esp

58 3a BNED LR TTW.esp

59 3b BNED Power Armor Scaling LR TTW.esp

60 3c BNED Power Armor Scaling TTW.esp

61 3d BNE Diversified Black APAII.esp

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Post by **Trm8r** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:51 pm

I don't use most of your mods but you have to get permission from Lyons to trade.

Post by **TheEntiretyOfCancoon** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:54 pm

Yes, but you have to talk to Durga first before the dialogue to get permission from Elder Lyons pops up. As there is no dialogue option other than to leave the conversation when I speak to Durga, I can't talk to Lyons to get permission.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:14 pm

Well no that's total nonsense as it doesn't do that for me or anyone else.

Post by **jlf65** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:04 pm

He's using YUP and NOT using TTW-fixes or the TTW patch for PN. That's more likely the problem.

Post by **jlf65** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:49 pm

[quote=lapo]Yeah, TTW-fixes has a warning about using it only on new games and I didn't want to start again, I had a few hours of progress with my new TTW playthrough before I saw that mod here. In any even I checked and this isn't mentioned in the changelog there.[/quote]

TTW changes a LOT of stuff, in particular some important scripts. Without the fixes, there's no telling what could go wrong. I'd try the TTW-Fixes anyway, just to be certain.

[quote]As for the TTW patch for Project Nevada I am pretty sure that is in the load order I posted, unless you meant something else?[/quote]

No, I just missed it. Sorry. Your list is a LITTLE hard to read without line breaks after each mod.

Anywho, it's very odd that turning off JIP makes it work for you. There's definitely something weird there as no one has reported anything similar. Never seen it myself. In any case, your version is old - update and try it again. Maybe it WAS a problem in JIP under rare conditions and is fixed.

Post by **Mystical Panda** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:44 pm

It's possible that disabling the JIP plugin prevents certain script functions (JIP LN specific) from working properly (if at all), bypassing them entirely which could be setting or modifying data. So if there was 'scripting' confusion between different mods, what you noticed as a test result could work, but might cause problems later on in the save file itself if the result of the scripts were necessary for data integrity.

I would imagine, as an observable result, the game, which should be composed on normal script functions, would seemingly work as those don't require JIP LN, while any new functions specifically coded for it in the scripts wouldn't.

Post by **Mystical Panda** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:50 am

I'm not totally up on the two NVSE plugins, but the JIP LN is the combined version of regular JIP and Lutana plugins, if I'm thinking correctly. I'm guessing they would be interchangeable if the function names (calls) are the same, but I didn't get to check and see if there's a difference (still working on rewriting some code atm); the results your having say they're definitely not. Perhaps the GECK (expanded to include NVSE and associated plugins) 'compiles' scripts with an offset code for the function based on it's location the associated dll, rather than the actual function name itself, and the order has completely changed (different indexes now point to different functions). That would break stuff for sure, and is a really broad guess.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:03 am

I have no such effects in my game and I have many different save states for testing, and I help jazz by testing the plugins all the time. Most people keep them up to date because many popular mods are updated for it and use the new functions. Are you using an older version of NVSE? You must use the latest beta or it will not function correctly.

You *cannot* use YUP stand alone with TTW, it *will* break it. That is clearly stated in our FAQ, and we can't provide any support when people do things they know are going to break their game. It's a waste of time for us to try and diagnose any side effects.

The OP is also using mods which are known incompatible, and therefore I'm just going to lock the topic if this continues.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 am

Hrm well I swear the FAQ said that at some point, but apparently not. My bad, it should be updated soon.

The text on nexus is years old and hasn't been changed since Yuki wrote it I don't think.