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MrMedicinal
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Yes i am all for that, I'm

Post by MrMedicinal » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:09 pm

Yes i am all for that, I'm pretty sure that was just an error on his part, and he just never got around to fixing it because he moved on to Skyrim. I think he'll let you create a immersion patch for it, he already let three other people create addons and spelling fixes for that mod, so fingers crossed...



Senterpat
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So here's what I have so far.

Post by Senterpat » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:07 am

So here's what I have so far. For some chems it may be better to make up some names. But here's the possibilities so far:


 


2cb - nexus

2ce - aquarust

2ci - Izzy

adderal -Ralls or amps

amphetamine - speed

alprazolam - Bar

ceremonial herbs

clonazepam - Benzo

cocaine - Blow

codeine - Lean

dextromethorphan - Robo

diazepam - Tranks

epinephine - Adrenaline

heroin - Tar/Smack/Scat

ketamine - poppers

lsd - acid

marijuana - weed

mdma - X/E/Ecstacy/Hoop/Smarties

methadone - Fizzy/Salvia/Wafer/Dolly

methamphetamine - Ice/Crystal/Tweak

methaqualone - Ludes/Mandies

PCP - ozone

Peyote - Actus

phenorbital - Amytal/Reds/Seconal

Thorazine - ?


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paragonskeep
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I think it'll fit in fine,

Post by paragonskeep » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:50 pm

I think it'll fit in fine, maybe call Thorazine "Nite nite" due to it's "black out" effect and longer duration?


Are you going to do two files one street one real on the names? (more just curious will be using this regardless)


Will this work with TTW now? (and just not effect DC)


Thanks for this and all the mods you do. They're awesome work and appreciated.


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Senterpat
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@paragorn thanks for the kind

Post by Senterpat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:31 pm

@paragorn thanks for the kind words. The mod will work with ttw, you'll even come across a few drugs in DC, they just won't be as common. Luckily a lot of vendor and containers from fallout 3 remain in the game files, so I was able to add some in dc without making a ttwpatch. 


I only want to maintain one version, so my plan is to make sure the curren version is complete and bugfree, than ill be modifying it to street names, then a ttw version, then an Imcn version. The ttw version will probably only have street names available. Howeverid probably make a real name version for ttw if requested enough.


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Dynastia
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Going over your list.

Post by Dynastia » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:30 pm

Going over your list.


2CB/2CI - I've never heard of these names, but wikipedia assures me they exist. I've never had anything to do with these substances, so I can't say for sure if those are accurate or commonly-used names. You could always swap them out for better known and more commonly-abused hallucinogens (psylocibin and bufotonin, for example)


2CE - Since becoming illegal everywhere, it's usually sold as "mescaline" on the street, so that buyers will at least have heard of it. Naming it "Synthemesc" would be an appropriate shout-out to a certain dystopian novel, but I don't know of any actual slang names for it. I've only ever used N5-meo-DiPT from that whole shitty chemical family.


Adderall - Adderall is simply a brand-name for amphetamine pills. In the fifties they were referred to as "Black Beauties", but all said, it's basically just legally made speed. Swapping it out for "Ritalin" will remove the redundancy of having both Adderall and Amphetamines (or perhaps, "Ritarall", a cocktail of Ritalin and Adderall)


Amphetamine - Well chosen, "speed" is indeed the most common and recognisable name.


Alprazolam - People refer to them as "bars" only because they're commonly processed into bar-shaped tablets, scored so that one can easily break them into thirds or quarters. Calling it "bar" would be like calling something "Tablet" or "Gel-Cap". I'd suggest going with the brand-name, "Xanax"


Clonazepam - "Benzo" refers to any drug in the benzodiazepine family, which includes diazepam and alprazolam. The brand name "Klonopin" or street name "K-Pin" would be more suitable.


Cocaine - "Coke" would be a more recognisable term. Although "Blow" is well-used and well-known, it could cause confusion since "blow" refers to hashish in the United Kingdom.


Codeine - I've never heard of "lean". "Cody" gets thrown around occasionally, or you could name it "T3" after the American pain pill which contains codeine and acetaminophen. Another (less appealling) option is "Cheese", which is apparantly a mixture of codeine and heroin and was probably invented by bad journalists as a scare-story.


Dextromethorphan - Being on the stuff is referred to as "robotripping", but people call it "DXM", unless they're specifically referring to the cough syrups that contain it (such as robotussin)


Diazepam - I'd suggest going with "Valium" instead of "tranks", as benzodiazepines are not strictly considered to be tranquilisers.


Epinephrine - Adrenelaine is just the generic term used outside of the USA.  As far as I know there are no street names, since it's not a marketable or recreational drug. If I were you I'd swap it out for an actually-used drug (methcathinone, perhaps)


Heroin - Heroin is already a street name (for diacetylmorphine), so you could just use that. "Tar" only refers to a specific type of heroin (6-mono homebake, if I remember right), so shouldn't be used. Smack is fine, and probably the most well-known term, after plain old 'heroin'. I've never personally heard of 'scat'. It might be a real slang name, or it might be a profanity filter's idea of censoring "the shit", which all drugs are generally referred to as. Either way, scat is often used by hunters and trackers to mean poop, and probably shouldn't be used here.


Ketamine - "Poppers" is no good, as it refers to Amyl Nitrate, a totally different substance. "Special K" is the only slang term I've ever heard for Ketamine.


LSD - "Acid", yes, fine, easily the best choice.


Marijuana - "Weed", also fine and the best choice.


MDMA - I'd go with "Ecstasy" as the best-known term. E or X would work, but one-letter names would look stupid on your pipboy.


Methadone - Salvia is no good, as it refers to a totally different drug. I haven't had much to do with methadone since the programs here prefer buprenorphine, but to the best of my knowledge users generally call it "Done". Fizzy, wafer and dolly I've never heard of.


Methamphetamine - "Meth" is the best-known term, but Ice or Crystal work fine. I know users are called 'tweakers' and using it called 'tweaking', but I've never in all my life heard of the substance itself being referred to as 'tweak'.


Methaqualone - Go with 'Ludes' or 'Quaaludes'. Mandy/Mandrax is a British Commonwealth term, and generally unknown to anyone who isn't 70+ years old, or from the shittier parts of South Africa.


PCP - "Dust" or "Angel Dust" are the recognisable terms by a LONG margin. I've also heard of "water" being used in black American hip-hop parlance. "Ozone" I've never heard of.


Peyote - Not sure where "actus" comes from, but I'd suggest keeping it as "Peyote" to better align with Honest Heart's "Datura". If you're really opposed to that, I'd suggest "Buttons", as it's the only slang name I've heard of.


Phenobarbital - "Goofballs" is a charming 1950's-esque slang for the stuff, but Amytal and Secanol are completely different (although related) drugs, and "reds" are a street name for Secanol specifically. "Luminal" is the brand name for phenobarbital, and probably your best choice if you went with "Valium, Xanax, Klonepin, etc." I'm not aware of any other slang terms for the stuff.


Thorazine - Thorazine is already a brand name (like Valium, Xanax, etc.) and should work fine. I don't think it actually has any street names, but I wouldn't know ; that stuff was phased out of usage here long before I was born.



Senterpat
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... Wow, you sir, really know

Post by Senterpat » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:54 pm

... Wow, you sir, really know your drugs. I had to google for most of them. Thank you for the thought you put into it, I'll definitely be checking out your post again when I get around to changing the names.


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