MMM-Hardened TTW

Post by **sesom** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:08 pm

The crash at entering anchorage most likely has nothing to do with MMM. Unequip all weapons before entering the seat should help to solve your problem. A fix btw. for this bug will be included in the next update of TTW afaik.

Post by **Cataca** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:45 pm

Nope, tried everything and deactivating MMM is the only way to solve the crash for me. Here is my loadorder, tho playing around with it for a considerable time didnt bear any fruits. Its especially frustrating since everything else works fine.

Active Mod Files:

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00 falloutnv.esm

01 Fallout3.esm

02 DeadMoney.esm

03 HonestHearts.esm

04 OldWorldBlues.esm

05 LonesomeRoad.esm

06 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

07 ClassicPack.esm

08 MercenaryPack.esm

09 TribalPack.esm

0A CaravanPack.esm

0B Anchorage.esm

0C BrokenSteel.esm

0D ThePitt.esm

0E PointLookout.esm

0F Zeta.esm

10 TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

11 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

12 Advanced Recon Tech.esm

13 Inventory Access.esm

14 Primary Needs HUD.esm

15 Project Nevada - Core.esm

16 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

17 WMVM.esm

18 New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

19 Lings.esm

1A Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

1B UWHNV-Core.esm

1C Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

1D Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

1E Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

1F Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

20 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

21 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

22 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

23 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

24 Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

25 Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

26 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

27 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

28 VanGraff Vendor Fix.esp

29 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [Version 1.5]

2A The Weapon Mod Menu.esp [Version 1.1]

2B TorresInventoryExpansion.esp

2C UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

2D UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

2E UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp

2F GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp

30 Advanced Recon Gear.esp

31 IDreamOfElectricSheep.esp

32 Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

33 Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

34 Neckchains.esp

35 Powered Power Armor.esp

36 T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esp

37 NVR- Recommended.esp

38 New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp

39 Jump Fall Fixer.esp

3A WeaponModsExpanded.esp

3B Project Nevada - WMX.esp

3C WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

3D WMX-DeadMoney.esp

3E WMX-HonestHearts.esp

3F WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

40 WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

41 WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

42 WMX-MW-GRA.esp

43 WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

44 WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

45 WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

46 WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

47 DK Caucasians.esp

48 TTW_DLCMessageSuppression.esp

49 TTW_Bobbleheads.esp

4A TTW_MoreCookingItems.esp

4B TTW_TQLSkip.esp

4C Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

4D Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

4E Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

4F UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp

50 T45d Power Armor Replacement.esp

51 Radar.esp

52 HackingInstantRetry.esp

53 UWHNV-Loadout Fix.esp

54 1nivVSLArmors.esp [Version 1.1]

55 ProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.esp

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I usually run with a merged patch there at the end to ensure compatibility between my leveled lists, and run with a 4gb adress thingie. But that crash is driving me nuts. (disabling boss to spawn in dlc didnt do anything either, so im stumped)

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:47 pm

Check your load order against the one in the alpha page. TTW is VERY PICKY so make sure it matches PRECISELY.

Post by **Cataca** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm

Did that, to no avail. Still crashing with mmm active when entering the simulator (with weapon or without), running stable without MMM. I double and tripple checked the headers, but i dont see where i could have gone wrong there.

*sigh*

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:07 pm

OK go through the alpha page load order and compare it to yours LINE BY LINE. I can't guarantee that your load order is the source of the problem but I CAN guarantee there is a problem in your load order.

Post by **Cataca** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:23 pm

As said, i changed it to whats on the alpha install guide, but no success. Is anyone willing to upload his changed MMM esm/esp files so i can at least check if i just made some error with nvedit... or something? It must be something with those files at least, since without them im running just fine.

[collapsed title=Hidden text]00 falloutnv.esm

01 Fallout3.esm

02 DeadMoney.esm

03 HonestHearts.esm

04 OldWorldBlues.esm

05 LonesomeRoad.esm

06 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

07 CaravanPack.esm

08 ClassicPack.esm

09 MercenaryPack.esm

0A TribalPack.esm

0B Anchorage.esm

0C ThePitt.esm

0D BrokenSteel.esm

0E PointLookout.esm

0F Zeta.esm

10 TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

11 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

12 Advanced Recon Tech.esm

13 Inventory Access.esm

14 Primary Needs HUD.esm

15 Project Nevada - Core.esm

16 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

17 WMVM.esm

18 New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

19 Lings.esm

1A Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

1B UWHNV-Core.esm

1C Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

1D Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

1E Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

1F Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

20 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

21 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

22 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

23 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

24 Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

25 Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

26 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

27 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

28 VanGraff Vendor Fix.esp

29 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [Version 1.5]

2A The Weapon Mod Menu.esp [Version 1.1]

2B TorresInventoryExpansion.esp

2C UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

2D UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

2E UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp

2F GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp

30 Advanced Recon Gear.esp

31 IDreamOfElectricSheep.esp

32 Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

33 Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

34 Neckchains.esp

35 Powered Power Armor.esp

36 T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esp

37 NVR- Recommended.esp

38 New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp

39 Jump Fall Fixer.esp

3A WeaponModsExpanded.esp

3B Project Nevada - WMX.esp

3C WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

3D WMX-DeadMoney.esp

3E WMX-HonestHearts.esp

3F WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

40 WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

41 WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

42 WMX-MW-GRA.esp

43 WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

44 WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

45 WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

46 WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

47 DK Caucasians.esp

48 TTW_DLCMessageSuppression.esp

49 TTW_Bobbleheads.esp

4A TTW_MoreCookingItems.esp

4B TTW_TQLSkip.esp

4C Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

4D Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

4E Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

4F UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp

50 T45d Power Armor Replacement.esp

51 Radar.esp

52 HackingInstantRetry.esp

53 UWHNV-Loadout Fix.esp

54 1nivVSLArmors.esp [Version 1.1]

55 ProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.esp[/collapsed]

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:42 pm

Ah, apologies, misread your post, my fault, I don't use MMM, sO I'm going to bow out now.

Post by **Cataca** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:27 am

No issue at all, i was pleasantly suprised by the fast help at any rate. I guess i'll have to accept that i wont be able to play MMM for the time beeing. (it was messing with food and nutrition, so i'd guess i'd have to disable it at one point or another, playing in hardcore mode)

Im happy enough as is, since right to bear arms and spice of life works so well and integrates seamlessly. Powered power armor also has working power armor loot (and power armor destruction) on foes that wear it, so im very content right now. If i had some way to increase spawns across the board to increase the challenge i'd be even happier, but you cant have everything.

As a little sidenote, is it normal that foes with guns seem to have their aim glued to your head? Or am i imagining things here?