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Power Armor Tiers

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Power Armor Tiers

Post by darthbdaman » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:52 pm

Power Armor Distribution Overhaul


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Uniques in Italics


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  • Tier 1 - Level 1


    • T-45d Power Armor, DT 22 / DR 25 (Brotherhood, Lyon's Pride & Outcasts)


    • T-57c Power Armor, DT 21 / DR 20 (Boomers)


    • Ashur's Power Armor, DT 23 / DR 25


    • Tribal Power Armor, DT 23 / DR 25


    • Linden's Outcast Power Armor, DT 23 / DR 25


    • Prototype Medic Armor, DT 20 / DR 19


    • Scorched Sierra Power Armor, DT 24 / DR 20




  • Tier 2 - Level 10



  • Tier 3 - Level 15


    • T-60c Power Armor, DT 27 / DR 35 (Brotherhood, Lyon's Pride & Outcasts)


    • Remnants & Advanced Power Armor, DT 28 / DR 35 (Enclave)


    • Remnants & Advanced Tesla Armor, DT 25 / DR 25 (Enclave)


    • Gannon Family Tesla Armor, DT 26 / DR 25




  • Tier 4 - Level 20


    • Advanced Power Armor MKII, DT 32 / DR 40 (Enclave)


    • Advanced Tesla Armor MkII, DT 28 / DR 30 (Enclave)


    • Enclave Shocktrooper, DT 35 / DR 40 (Take it Back)


    • "Robo-Thor" Armor, DT 30 / DR 30 (Take it Back)




  • Tier 5 - Level 25


    • Hellfire Armor, DT 35 / DR 45 (Enclave)


    • Tesla Resonance Armor, DT 32 / DR 35 (Enclave)


    • Vault-Tec Power Armor, DT 38 / DR 45 (Vault 11)





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You're gonna have to

Post by TJ » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:57 pm

You're gonna have to elaborate if you want to get much input.


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sry im on mobile and cant get

Post by darthbdaman » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:00 pm

I added DT values based on the ones that were edited for New Vegas.

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For TTW, you might want to

Post by Runnerblank » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:02 pm

For TTW, you might want to put the PN PA armor ratings more in line with the East Coast PAs since the Enclave is the main enemy in the Washington DC Wasteland and you certainty get a lot more PA action in Washington then in the Mojave.


Per Fallout 3 Wikia


"The T-51b armor in other Fallout games is inferior to Enclave power armor series since the Enclave researched more advanced power armor on top of the T-51b. In Fallout 3 however, since the Enclave bases in the west have been virtually wiped out, the more advanced models have been lost, forcing the Enclave to research advanced armor again. This makes the T-51b model superior over most of the East Coast Enclave soldiers' power armors. However, the addition of the Enclave Hellfire armor levels the playing field and bears the same damage resistance as the rusted T-51b, coupled with its set of effects and better availability."


Using Fallout Wikia, in Fallout 3, the T45d has the same DT of 40 that the Enclaves advanced power armor Mk II has (also called Enclave power armor), the Telsa has 43, and the Hellfire and T51b both have a DT of 50. This is sans the helmet for all.


As it is, the East Coast Lyon's Brotherhood power armor is going to much more  outclass by the East Coast Enclave than in the original game.


My suggestion would be up the T45s DT to be closer to the Enclave Advanced Power Armor. Let the Enclave Advanced Power Armor and Tesla PA be the East Coast PA which is only slightly stronger than the T45s but not nearly as strong as the T51s.


Let the Advanced Power Armor MKII and the Advanced Tesla Armor be the West Coast Armor with the East Coast Hellfire armor being only a little tougher. Let the T51s be about equal to the Hellfire (love that Pre War tech).


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Because you don't need to out run a Deathclaw.
You just need to out run your companions (Just bring a lot of companions in case the Deathclaw is really hungry!).

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The problem with that is in

Post by darthbdaman » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:30 pm

The problem with that is in TTW the enclave have access to advanced power armor mkI. This creates a massive plothole in that explanation. While I don't think the enclave should have been given advanced power armor in TTW, I don't really want to get rid of it.

And in new Vegas, obisidan included a bunch of the enclave armors in the files with edited DT values. They were all very high and better than the remnants versions.

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I'm just suggesting that the

Post by Runnerblank » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:49 pm

I'm just suggesting that the TTW PN Power Armor Tiers/DT should reflect the FO3/East Coast ratings since there is only a fraction of the PA in the Mojave.


You don't need to get rid of any thing. In FO3 the East Coast Enclave advanced power armor Mk II was also called Enclave power armor. So say that the East Coast MkIIs were the equal to the West Coast advanced power armor MkIs (and now officially designated as the advance PA Mk1 on both coasts.) Any MKII suits in the Washington DC Wasteland are West Coast imports.


Of course the MKIIs should be really rare on the East Coast and pristine new suits will provide more protection than suits that have been in use for the last 200 years but that is going a little too fine.


I'd just make the T49s DT closer to the Enclave MkIs (say DT 27) and the T51s DT closer to the Enclave MkIIs and Hellfire armor (say DT 32).


Always bring a companion or two that is slower than you.
Because you don't need to out run a Deathclaw.
You just need to out run your companions (Just bring a lot of companions in case the Deathclaw is really hungry!).

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The Vault-Tec PA should

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:36 pm

The Vault-Tec PA should probably have the highest.


Also how about DR/DT like in proper Fallout? :D


 


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Ya ill add it in jsawyer. In

Post by darthbdaman » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:43 pm

Ya ill add it in jsawyer. In PN the vault tec pa is worse than remnants, so I think I'll keep it that way

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I thought the remnants was

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:49 pm

I thought the remnants was worse, guess I remembered wrong.


What about the Remnants Tesla?


 


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What im doing with the Tesla

Post by darthbdaman » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:27 pm

What im doing with the Tesla armors, is making them all follow the pattern set by remnants tesla armor vs power armor.


Tesla Armor has lower DT and DR, but gives you better stat bonuses and is medium armor. This gives you at bit more choice at each tier and gives them all a bit of a trade off.


And yes the vault tec pa is between tesla and remnants armor.



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