Log of Full Reinstall...help isolate crashing issue

[Nelson Siward]

Alright, so, I know this first post won't have every piece of information required, as I'm making it as I re-install, to sort of double as a log of what I'm doing, but I'm making that log here just in case one of you TTW wizards sees it and can identify some early mistakes that I'm missing.

 

Long story short, i've attempted about 10 installs of TTW but I always have trouble with crashes and black-hole loading screens in the Capital wasteland. I'm going for another go, and this time trying to get some help as I go with it.

I don't have a load order just yet, but will be posting one once I have one. (have just uninstalled FO3, TTW, all mods, all extenders, all mod mangers. Short of a reformat, this is as clean as I can get it.)

 

I do have specs, and I imagine my ancient dinosaur computer has something to do with it. At the time of fallout new Vegas, it was a spiffy fancy machine, but now its kind of a dusty old dinosaur. In theory, it should be able to handle anything FO3 or NV so long as I don't do anything crazy graphically or have like 100+ load order. Perhaps there's something I'm missing through my install that could make such an old girl handle such a big mod better?

 

I have almost no performance issues when I play. No stutters, slowdowns, anything. I just have crashes. Lots and lots of crashes, unplayable amounts of crashes, and this is after all the low-hanging fruit like optimizing .ini, NVAC, NVSR

I also seem to encounter black-hole loading screens far too often. It starts loading and will never stop. I don't mind a decent load time, I know i've got a 10 year old computer. That's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about literally never ending loading screens. Have tested for 1 hour+. 

 

Crashes and eternal loads seem to happen at random. Cannot pinpoint a specific trigger.

Specs:

H-P Model p6674y



AMD Phenom (tm) II X4 830 2.80 GHz



RAM 6.00 GB



Windows 10 64 bit x64



AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series



Realtek High Definition Audio



 

 

Plan for install:

Install steam FO3

Install steamNV

Install low-hanging fruit crash fixers to native data directory (NVAC, NVSR, NVSE, JIP, 4GB patcher)

Install MO. seems like the cleanest way to tick mods on and off.

 

 

I don't need or care about texture replacers or ENBS or anything crazy. Mods i want would be ones that add more stuff to do and deepen mechanics, stuff like STUN and Project Ultimatum.

 

As I go through above process, will check back on this post to see if anyone has some advice. Thanks! Load order will incrementally be shared in following posts.

 

 

[Nelson Siward]

Information i left out. Intervals seem to be around the 15-45 min of gameplay mark for a crash or interruption.

[Nelson Siward]

oops! Left out versions of games.

Steam FO3GOTY

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Steam

 

[RoyBatty]

with NVSR on windows fall creators update, you need to set bHookLightCriticalSections = 0 and set iDefaultMode = 1 in the ini

[Nelson Siward]

Thanks roy, that isnt something I had done before. Load order incoming in about er.. an hour :P

[Lyndi]

Since you're using MO make sure you have the BSA's loading in the correct order: https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/mod-organizer-users-please-read

You're also better off organizing your load order yourself than using LOOT: https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/load-order-general-guide

[Nelson Siward]

Ini changes here

launched and closed both vanillia games

Installed all fixers/extenders (4gb patcher, nvse, jip, nvac, nvsr), edited nvsr ini per roy batty's instructions to NATIVE directory

Modified MO ini launcher for fallout.ini per optimization guides, ttw manual install guide. 

*Falloutprefs.ini not availible oddly. not sure why*

run ttw installer

*did not automatically detect FO3GOTY install. wierd.*

create work folder TTWPRIME on desktop. add all main files except fomods

add optionals of choice (see load order) to TTWPRIME

archive TTWPRIME

add TTWPRIME

add hotfixes

add fixes patch

run loot

manually re-order archive list per Lyndi instructions

manually re-order per load order general guide (thanks lyndi)

Load Order (stage 1: Basic install): here

 

Running test of intro, will post results.

[Nelson Siward]

ugh. nvse ran the launcher....

 

checked ini file in mo vs record. still works. All good. See above link for ini.

fallout prefs generated. incomplete.

Ran again... to generate fallout prefs correctly as non admin. claims program is runninbut not up.

opened task manager to kill processes....

 

ran again.... ugh this old computer. closed.

noticed resolution was way too low. fixed to native moniter resolution in prefs. (updated fallout_prefs.ini here)

once more into the breach....

Proper launch, no noticed performance issues, dad face not pink, a-ok!

all dlcs load, all level caps load. Time to actually mod...

 

Will add mods and load orders as I go.

[Nelson Siward]

Been a little bit.

I got all the mods i thought sounded fun and made a huge load order, currently not really playing super great.

*this includes the ini modifications for performance optimization*

*includes SR, AC, etc*

*includes SR ini changes suggested by roy*

 

The crashes are slightly better, but not much. Its a big load order, so I assume there's something there thats just not hacking it, but im dumb and have no idea what to snip.

MP= NVEdit Merge patch

 

A new problem which i do not like has reared its head. Occastionally, the game develops a bug where I cannot use the mouse to make selections in submenus, pip boy, or dialouges.

view here

[jlf65]

Have you bumped the heap up to 450M? Once you get around 90 to 100 plugins, you almost assuredly need more than the default size for the heap or it crashes very quickly. You're VERY close to the absolute limit for plugins as it is.