Having minor but very weird quest/dialog bugs from the very beginning, concerned that they may become major later on.

Post by **Insidious611** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:47 am

First off, here's my stats:

OS: Windows 10 Pro, Processor: Intel Core i5-4570, RAM: 8GB DDR3

Mod Manager: FOMM v0.14.11.12

TTW Install Log: Attached

Current Load Order: Attached

Fallout 3 Version: Old Direct2Drive copy, DLCs from GFWL.

Fallout New Vegas Version: Steam Ultimate Edition.

I have the latest NVSE installed, as well as New Vegas Stutter Remover and New Vegas Anti Crash installed.

So here's my problem: I'm having weird bugs with the quests and dialog, very early on in the game. So far three things have happened that have struck me as particularly odd. If I have other similar things happen, and I have the sneaking suspicion I might, I will also post them.

1. During Moira's Wasteland Survival Guide quest: When I first started the quest, I had enough Science skill to tell her about radiation instead of having to go out and get irradiated. I did so, and then took the "go to the grocery store and scavenge for food/medicine" part of the quest. Then, after I left the dialog with her, it acted like I'd come back to her irradiated and asked her to help me, the game faded to black and she made some sort of comment (I forget what she said exactly, sorry, I know I'm a crap bug reporter) indicating she thought she'd just healed my radiation. My radiation level stayed the same.

2. Again, during Moira's Wasteland Survival Guide quest: When I started the second part of the quest, where one of the subquests is to get injured and then report back to her, I first took the subquest about hitting molerats... and then as soon as I left the dialog, without me having even clicked the topic about getting injured for her, she made a comment about me being really hurt and there was a fade to black again as though she was healing me. Again, I was not actually healed. I was later able to complete the "get injured" part of the quest the normal way.

3. On the unmarked quest Grady's Package, where Lug-Nut confronts you after you steal his naughty sleepwear, I was given the Terrifying Presence option despite not having this perk at all. Upon clicking it, he said something about "wrong answer" and then attacked me but did not actually appear to properly go hostile.

In general it feels like a lot of quest scripting is just kind of... broken. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, or if these are just known issues, or what. I'm hoping I can properly play through the Fallout 3 portion without more important things going wrong. If I have further issues I'm going to take proper screenshots and such.

Post by **Insidious611** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:39 am

Someone in the chat said this may be because I have TTW_SpeechChecks and TTW_Reputation enabled. Disabling them and hopefully I won't have any further issues. Will update later.

Post by **RoyBatty** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:55 pm

remove


[X] Project Beauty.esm

Not needed, TTW Redesigned includes it

Haven't been able to reproduce the Radiation thing, it's been reported before.

Moira healing bug is random, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. The dialogues are so convoluted, I've never found a solution to fix it entirely.

LugNut's dialogues are missing a single variable check or it's checking your strength instead of the perk, easily fixed.

TTW does not fix vanilla bugs either, so bear that in mind. TTW Fixes tries to address these things but there are still bugs in the game on both sides and the bug fix packs for them are still updated on a regular basis (Which are incorporated into TTWFixes eventually).

These are minor issues, I wouldn't worry about them.

You also have no merge/bash patch of any kind and are not using the patches for EVE/Redesigned or other mods. You really need to do so.

Post by **Insidious611** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:25 am

Uhh. I *am* using the patches for EVE/Redesigned... The one for EVE that's on here literally uses the exact same ESP name as the original...

Post by **Insidious611** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:28 am

Yeah, I just checked the EVE thread linked from the FAQ again. I *am* using exactly what that thread says to use... I am now definitely confused. Ditto with Redesigned.

I misread and I don't need to use the ESM for Project Beauty though, you're right there...

But yeah, I don't see these patches you're talking about anywhere?

https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/ttw-eve

Unless I'm missing something here?

EDIT: Corrected something I got wrong.

Post by **Insidious611** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:41 am

This is my new load order, after removing Project Beauty and making a merge patch. Please tell me what "patches for EVE/Redesigned or other mods" I'm actually missing, because I'm combing through the threads now and not seeing hide nor hair of what you're talking about.

EDIT: Forgot to move MergedPatch to *above* the lighting mods. Disregard that little screwup, fixed already.

It's worth noting I've had no problems since disabling Reputations and SpeechChecks at Risewild's suggestion.

Post by **Lyndi** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:59 am

Roy's talking about the compatibility patches in the big patch thread here: https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/compatibility-patch-thread

Post by **Insidious611** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:04 pm

A*ha*! Thank you very much. The EVE+Redesigned one seems to be the only one currently applicable to me since I disabled Reputations, but still.

Post by **Insidious611** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:26 pm

So I'm having a bug with the rivet city doctor now where when I'm crippled but otherwise at full health he's refusing to treat me, saying he "doesn't think there's anything wrong with me"

EDIT: Nevermind the rest of the stuff that was here.