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EltyJade
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by EltyJade » Sun May 31, 2015 8:50 am
[quote=Puppettron]
you don't even have the TTW reputations optional in there, which means arefu is being handled by the fo3 factions system.
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while that doesn't completely explain why they became hostile i assume adding it in will fix the issue?
if so ill add it in posthaste.
thanks for all the replies honestly this is the first time ive added large mods to NV so im a little clueless dispite reading the how to guides.
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Puppettron
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by Puppettron » Sun May 31, 2015 10:30 am
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug
perms: either a full fireworks display spelling out "Puppettron Made This" anytime a user accesses my content in-game, or just give me credit somewhere.
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EltyJade
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by EltyJade » Sun May 31, 2015 10:33 am
[quote=Puppettron]
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug
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thank you so much for the assistance to everyone who responded, i used the console command and will be adding the factions addon shortly
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LT Albrecht
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by LT Albrecht » Sun May 31, 2015 10:39 am
[quote=Puppettron]
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug
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Arefu is 'bugged' (or rather set up quite weirdly), essentially the game blames you for any death that occurs in the town and turns them hostile.
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Royhr
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by Royhr » Sun May 31, 2015 1:38 pm
Not that it should the issue but your load order show the crap packs loaded right after FONV.esm. They should be loaded after Gunrunnersarsenal.esm.
Also you are not running the TTWFixes.esm which is recommended. It should be run right after the TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm.
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rickerhk
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by rickerhk » Sun May 31, 2015 4:10 pm
[quote=LT Albrecht]
Puppettron wrote:
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug

Arefu is 'bugged' (or rather set up quite weirdly), essentially the game blames you for any death that occurs in the town and turns them hostile.
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Yeah the on-death block of the NPC scripts doesn't do an IsKiller check to see if the player did it. It just sets MS09ArefuHates to 1. So it's a vanilla oversight.
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Puppettron
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by Puppettron » Sun May 31, 2015 4:20 pm
[quote=rickerhk]
LT Albrecht wrote:
Puppettron wrote:
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug

Arefu is 'bugged' (or rather set up quite weirdly), essentially the game blames you for any death that occurs in the town and turns them hostile.
Yeah the on-death block of the NPC scripts doesn't do an IsKiller check to see if the player did it. It just sets MS09ArefuHates to 1. So it's a vanilla oversight.
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really? so it's something for fixes if it's not already fixed?
perms: either a full fireworks display spelling out "Puppettron Made This" anytime a user accesses my content in-game, or just give me credit somewhere.
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rickerhk
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by rickerhk » Sun May 31, 2015 4:23 pm
[quote=Puppettron]
rickerhk wrote:
LT Albrecht wrote:
Puppettron wrote:
it might not make them unhostile if you add it. but without it, what happened is you got put into the arefu faction hostile faction somehow, which would normally happen if you committed a great enough crime against the faction members -- which tricky mentioned would also include members of the family.
you might have to console your way out if it's a bug

Arefu is 'bugged' (or rather set up quite weirdly), essentially the game blames you for any death that occurs in the town and turns them hostile.
Yeah the on-death block of the NPC scripts doesn't do an IsKiller check to see if the player did it. It just sets MS09ArefuHates to 1. So it's a vanilla oversight.
really? so it's something for fixes if it's not already fixed?
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Yes, something for fixes.
Also, as a side note, IIRC - it's been several years - it bugged out on me with the Brianna mod too. If you hit her with friendly fire the hate variable gets set. That would be something for the Brianna mod, not fixes, though.
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RoyBatty
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by RoyBatty » Sun May 31, 2015 9:13 pm
Let me note that and check if it's added to Fixes and if not, I'll try to get that in there. I already gave TJ a quite large update which includes fixes for other stuff that was never fixed.
As for crap packs, it doesn't matter at all where they are, they inject records into FalloutNV.esm so the load order of them is completely irrelevant as long as they come before TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm