Having problems with TTW installer (only with a DLC)

Post by **FullMetalOrange35** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:18 pm

Last week I found this mod and decided to give it a shot yesterday and installed a fresh copy of Fallout 3 GOTY and Fallout NV Ultimate Edition through Steam, both fully updated, with Clean ESMs (using FNVEdit and FO3Edit), and with the right load order.

Now that im trying to install the new TTW version through the installer, everything seems fine until it gets to ThePitt ESM

[collapsed title=[10/27/2014 3:09:37 PM] Checking for required files... [10/27/2014 3:09:37 PM] All files found. Proceeding with installation. [10/27/2014 3:09:40 PM] Fallout3 - Meshes has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:40 PM] Fallout3 - Misc has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:40 PM] Fallout3 - Sound has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:41 PM] Fallout3 - Textures has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:41 PM] Fallout3 - MenuVoices has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:42 PM] Fallout3 - Voices has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:43 PM] Anchorage - Main has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:43 PM] Anchorage - Sounds has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:44 PM] ThePitt - Main has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:44 PM] ThePitt - Sounds has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:44 PM] BrokenSteel - Main has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:45 PM] BrokenSteel - Sounds has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:45 PM] PointLookout - Main has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:46 PM] PointLookout - Sounds has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:46 PM] Zeta - Main has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:47 PM] Zeta - Sounds has already been built. Skipping. [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Patching Fallout3.esm... [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Fallout3.esm already exists [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Fallout3.esm is up to date [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Patching Anchorage.esm... [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Anchorage.esm already exists [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Anchorage.esm is up to date [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Patching ThePitt.esm... [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] A patch for your version of ThePitt.esm could not be found [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Your version of ThePitt.esm cannot be patched. This is abnormal. [10/27/2014 3:09:51 PM] Install aborted.] text [/collapsed]

Both games are English versions.

I have both games installed in a different HDD than C:, on a different Steam Library.

I don't think i need to post my system requirements but I will anyway:

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T

RAM 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3

Motherboard BIOSTAR Group A880GU3

1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (EVGA)

HardDrives:

232GB Western Digital WDC WD2500JS-60NCB1 ATA Device (SATA) - (C:)

1863GB Hitachi HUA723020ALA641 ATA Device (SATA) - (Z: , where games are installed)

Post by **Risewild** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:45 pm

What do you mean "with Clean ESMs (using FNVEdit and FO3Edit)"?

Post by TJ » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:09 pm

He means he cleaned his DLCs. Probably because he's a Skyrim guy. You can't do that with Fallout, Skyrim guy. Don't clean any of the official files.

Post by **FullMetalOrange35** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:21 pm

Oh... my bad then :c

Thanks a lot for the help, and the fast response, that was indeed the problem.

Sorry!

Post by TJ » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:16 am

No worries fella. Enjoy your TTW.

Post by **austen1000** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:03 am

Not that I use cleaned DLC files anymore, but, why is cleaning the DLC files bad for the Fallout games in particular (technical reasons, I mean)? I know with New Vegas, there use to be issues caused by it, but, they seemed to be fixed by later versions of FNVEdit (last I checked when I was using cleaned files). Also, cleaning official DLC files actually got its start in Oblivion, if I remember right. It just carried over to Skyrim.

Post by **JaxFirehart** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:31 am

Well in the case of TTW it's because altered FO3 DLCs can't be read by the installer. In all honesty, I fail to see the point to cleaning the DLCs. If they are put in release order, if I remember correctly, they don't override anything important. In addition to that, all mods should be loaded after the official DLC, so they should automatically override anything of interest in the official DLCs.

I'm not stating with certainty that it's pointless, but it seems logically so.

Post by **austen1000** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:42 am

Well, from what I understand, if a record is changed way to many times by different plugins, it causes issues (not sure what issues, exactly, been awhile since I read up on it). Removing records in the DLCs that make no alterations whatsoever (ITM) helps alliviate this issue. With deleted references, if a mod tries to reference the deleted recorded, it causes issues like crashes, which is why xEdit offers an alternative in the form of undeleting and disabling these references.