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phlimm
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20 minute load screens

Post by phlimm » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:22 am

So at first I thought it was infinite but I Ctrl-Alt-Del to Task Manager and let it sit once and then after about 20 minutes the CPU went down from a flat 25% and the Memory went up from 260 MB to over 700 and then the Save game loaded.  This is ONLY from Load from Save, not Continue (I find that fails).


I am using the Large Address Aware Launcher, both NV Regular (with all the required DLC) and FO3 GOTY are via Steam. No other mods.


Is 20 minutes expected load time?  If not how can I fix this?


System info:


Windows 7 64-bit, Intel i5-2450M, 8 GB RAM


TTW: 2.9.4, was using FOMM v0.10 directly but now loading via fnv4gb v1.9.


Load Order:



[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

[X] ttw_wildwasteland.esp

[X] TTWOptions.esp

[X] TTW_StashPackOptions.esp

[X] TTW_StartupMenu.esp

[X] TTW_SpeechChecks.esp

[X] TTW_OutcastTrading.esp

[X] TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp

[X] TTW_Reputation.esp

[X] TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp

  


Log file:



[6/5/2015 7:41:45 PM]	Version 2.7.5.0

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]	64-bit architecture found.

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]	Looking for Fallout3.exe

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]		Found.

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]	Looking for FalloutNV.exe

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]		Found.

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]	Looking for Tale of Two Wastelands

[6/5/2015 7:41:46 PM]		Default path found.

[6/5/2015 7:42:10 PM]		Tale of Two Wastelands not found, prompting user.

[6/5/2015 7:43:58 PM]		Tale of Two Wastelands not found, prompting user.

[6/5/2015 7:45:12 PM]		Tale of Two Wastelands not found, prompting user.

[6/5/2015 7:45:32 PM]	User manually changed Tale of Two Wastelands directory to: C:\TOTW

[6/5/2015 7:45:36 PM]	Checking for required files...

[6/5/2015 7:45:36 PM]	NVSE missing

[6/5/2015 7:45:49 PM]	Requesting NVSE page at http://nvse.silverlock.org/

[6/5/2015 7:45:50 PM]	Parsed NVSE link: http://nvse.silverlock.org/download/nvse_4_5.7z

[6/5/2015 7:46:03 PM]	Extracting nvse_loader.exe

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Extracting nvse_1_4.dll

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Extracting nvse_1_4ng.dll

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Extracting nvse_editor_1_4.dll

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Extracting nvse_steam_loader.dll

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	NVSE was installed successfully.

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	All files found.

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Creating FOMOD foundation

[6/5/2015 7:46:04 PM]	Building Fallout3 - Meshes

[6/5/2015 7:47:13 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:47:13 PM]	Building Fallout3 - Misc

[6/5/2015 7:47:13 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:47:13 PM]	Building Fallout3 - Sound

[6/5/2015 7:47:39 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:47:39 PM]	Building Fallout3 - Textures

[6/5/2015 7:48:56 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:48:56 PM]	Building Fallout3 - MenuVoices

[6/5/2015 7:49:44 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:49:44 PM]	Building Fallout3 - Voices

[6/5/2015 7:50:26 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:50:26 PM]	Building Anchorage - Main

[6/5/2015 7:51:16 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:51:16 PM]	Building Anchorage - Sounds

[6/5/2015 7:51:19 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:51:19 PM]	Building ThePitt - Main

[6/5/2015 7:52:07 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:52:07 PM]	Building ThePitt - Sounds

[6/5/2015 7:52:09 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:52:09 PM]	Building BrokenSteel - Main

[6/5/2015 7:52:32 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:52:32 PM]	Building BrokenSteel - Sounds

[6/5/2015 7:52:35 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:52:35 PM]	Building PointLookout - Main

[6/5/2015 7:53:14 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:53:14 PM]	Building PointLookout - Sounds

[6/5/2015 7:53:17 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:53:17 PM]	Building Zeta - Main

[6/5/2015 7:54:02 PM]	Build successful.

[6/5/2015 7:54:02 PM]	Building Zeta - Sounds

[6/5/2015 7:54:06 PM]	Build successful.

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[6/5/2015 7:54:12 PM]	Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_boogie_mono.wav

[6/5/2015 7:54:12 PM]	Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_way_mono.wav

[6/5/2015 7:54:12 PM]	Created sound\songs\radio\vault101

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TJ
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You didn't download the

Post by TJ » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:30 am

You didn't download the hotfix. Your save is permanently ruined. You'll need to cry, then download the hotfix and start over.


Or just make a clean save without TTWOptions then install the hotfix.


My project Dash is on Kickstarter!


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phlimm
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So, remove TTWOptions from

Post by phlimm » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:05 am

So, remove TTWOptions from the Load Order?  Anything else?  


 


Then run the game, save exit, and then overwrite the orignal TTWOptions with the new one?


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TJ
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You have to delete the old

Post by TJ » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:48 pm

You have to delete the old one, then load / save / exit. Then install the new one.


 


My project Dash is on Kickstarter!


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phlimm
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It definitely made a

Post by phlimm » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:39 pm

It definitely made a difference in my load times but only while I was in the current DLC (Zeta).  I fininished Zeta then hit the wastes again and now my load times are again over 10 minutes each.  


 


Also anytime I die, it will not load the previous save.  I have to completely exit the game and reload manually.  Which again is a another 10-15 minute exercise.  Very frustrating when you only have an hour in the morning to play.


  


Is this just something that is part of running TOTW because the save is getting larger as we go on or is there a workable solution?


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JaxFirehart
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This only occurred because of

Post by JaxFirehart » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:08 pm

This only occurred because of the TTW Optionals MCM integration plugin. So it's not a TTW problem, but one of the optional files. That's why we don't merge the optional files instantly, so we can check for things like this.


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macariodaal
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I was having the same problem

Post by macariodaal » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:08 pm

I was having the same problem but after following TJ's guide, my load time went from 7 minutes to 20 seconds


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phlimm
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Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:57 am

macariodaal wrote:

Post by phlimm » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:06 am

[quote=macariodaal]


 


I was having the same problem but after following TJ's guide, my load time went from 7 minutes to 20 seconds


[/quote]


 


Any chance we could get a link to said guide?  I looked around but couldn't find one.


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Puppettron
Gary
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tj's guide is make a clean

Post by Puppettron » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:14 am

tj's guide is make a clean save, add the one from hotfixes.


making a clean save:




  1. delete the optionals esp.  entirely.  you can print it out and burn it if you'd like, i'm not an expert on your coping mechanisms.


  2. load your game, again without that esp anywhere near your house, let alone your LO


  3. save game


  4. install the version in hotfixes section of Alpha Download page


  5. load game, play.


  6. optional:  go to public chat to fix anything that got broken in that process


  7. to reiterate, this will not work properly without a clean save.  failure to make a clean save grants the TTW team the ability to take pictures of your pets and photoshop them into embarassing situations.


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Puppettron
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try standard troubleshooting,

Post by Puppettron » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:56 am

try standard troubleshooting, cortez


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