The forum has been set to read-only mode. For community discussion and questions, head over to our Discord: https://discord.taleoftwowastelands.com

Repeated Crashing

General help and technical troubleshooting. Ask for help here if you can't find an answer in the FAQ.
dilbert719
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 am

Repeated Crashing

Post by dilbert719 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:52 am

My install of TTW seems to be very buggy and unstable, and it either hangs (forcing a hard close from the task manager) or crashes to desktop frequently, generally when changing from one cell to another. It's gotten to the point where the game is crashing every 5-15 minutes, and while I was willing to plough through for a while earlier on, I'm now just too frustrated, and am hoping that there's something obviously wrong I've done that can be fixed to restore some stability.


The requested information:


Intel i-5 2500K @3.30 GHz, Windows 10 Home, 8GB RAM


FOMM 0.14.11.12


Install log:


[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]    Version 2.7.5.0

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]    64-bit architecture found.

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]    Looking for Fallout3.exe

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]        Found.

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]    Looking for FalloutNV.exe

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]        Found.

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]    Looking for Tale of Two Wastelands

[5/23/2015 10:51:15 PM]        Default path found.

[5/23/2015 10:51:23 PM]        Tale of Two Wastelands not found, prompting user.

[5/23/2015 10:51:48 PM]    User manually changed Tale of Two Wastelands directory to: D:\Program Files (x86)\Fallout ToTW

[5/23/2015 10:52:10 PM]    Checking for required files...

[5/23/2015 10:52:10 PM]    NVSE found

[5/23/2015 10:52:10 PM]    All files found.

[5/23/2015 10:52:10 PM]    Creating FOMOD foundation

[5/23/2015 10:52:10 PM]    Building Fallout3 - Meshes

[5/23/2015 10:52:29 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:52:29 PM]    Building Fallout3 - Misc

[5/23/2015 10:52:29 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:52:29 PM]    Building Fallout3 - Sound

[5/23/2015 10:52:41 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:52:41 PM]    Building Fallout3 - Textures

[5/23/2015 10:53:23 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:53:23 PM]    Building Fallout3 - MenuVoices

[5/23/2015 10:54:02 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:54:02 PM]    Building Fallout3 - Voices

[5/23/2015 10:54:32 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:54:32 PM]    Building Anchorage - Main

[5/23/2015 10:54:51 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:54:51 PM]    Building Anchorage - Sounds

[5/23/2015 10:54:52 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:54:52 PM]    Building ThePitt - Main

[5/23/2015 10:55:21 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:55:21 PM]    Building ThePitt - Sounds

[5/23/2015 10:55:21 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:55:21 PM]    Building BrokenSteel - Main

[5/23/2015 10:55:38 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:55:38 PM]    Building BrokenSteel - Sounds

[5/23/2015 10:55:38 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:55:38 PM]    Building PointLookout - Main

[5/23/2015 10:56:02 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:56:02 PM]    Building PointLookout - Sounds

[5/23/2015 10:56:04 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:56:04 PM]    Building Zeta - Main

[5/23/2015 10:56:24 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:56:24 PM]    Building Zeta - Sounds

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Build successful.

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Created sound\songs\radio\licensed

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_easy_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_easy_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_fox.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_ellafitzgerald_into.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_crazy_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_crazy_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_pink.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:26 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jazzy.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jolly.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_sunning_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_butcher_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_sunning_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_pink_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_butcher_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_pink_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_way.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_mighty.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_rhythmforyou.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_mighty_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_dannykaye_civilization_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_mighty_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_dannykaye_civilization_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:27 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_boogie.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_coleporter_anything.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_rhythm_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jolly_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_rhythm_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jolly_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_dannykaye_civilization.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_idont.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_maybe_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_maybe.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_idont_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_maybe_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_inkspots_idont_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_ellafitzgerald_into_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_sunning.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_ellafitzgerald_into_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_roybrown_butcher.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:28 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jazzy_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:29 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_jazzy_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:29 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_fox_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:29 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_texbeneke_guy_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:29 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_happy_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:29 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_fox_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_texbeneke_guy_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_happy_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_crazy.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_swing_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_billieholiday_easy.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_swingdoors.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_swing_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_coleporter_anything_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_coleporter_anything_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_happy.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_texbeneke_guy.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_boogie_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:30 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_way_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:31 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_generic_boogie_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\licensed\mus_bobcrosby_way_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Created sound\songs\radio\vault101

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_05_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_05_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_06_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_06_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_01_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_01_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_02_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_02_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_03_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_03_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_04_mono.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\vault101\mus_vault101_04_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:32 PM]    Created sound\songs\radio\enclave

[5/23/2015 10:56:33 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_presidential_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:33 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_battlehymn_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_battlehymn.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_dixie_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_montezuma_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_yankee.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_yankee_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_dixie.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_stars.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_america.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_america_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_montezuma.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_washington_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_march_washingtonpost_stereo_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_washington.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_presidential.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\enclave\mus_enclave_stars_mono.wav

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Created sound\songs\radio\violin

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_sonatano2grave_bach_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_partitano3p_bach_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_partitano3gigue_bach_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_02_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_vc_1stmov_dvorak_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_06_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:34 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_03_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_04_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_vc_2ndmov_dvorak_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_z_sarasate_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_01_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extracted sound\songs\radio\violin\mus_violin_noodling_05_radio.mp3

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Extract from Fallout - Sound

[5/23/2015 10:56:35 PM]    Building TaleOfTwoWastelands - SFX.bsa.

[5/23/2015 10:56:36 PM]    Patching Fallout3.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:45 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:45 PM]    Patching Anchorage.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:47 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:47 PM]    Patching ThePitt.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:48 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:48 PM]    Patching BrokenSteel.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:48 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:48 PM]    Patching PointLookout.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:50 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:50 PM]    Patching Zeta.esm...

[5/23/2015 10:56:50 PM]        Patch successful

[5/23/2015 10:56:50 PM]    Copying Fallout3 music files...

[5/23/2015 10:56:54 PM]        Done.

[5/23/2015 10:56:54 PM]    Copying Fallout3 video files...

[5/23/2015 10:57:32 PM]        Done.

[5/23/2015 10:57:37 PM]    Building FOMODs.

[5/23/2015 11:01:47 PM]        Done.

18404222


Load Order:


FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

TTWFixes.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

TTW Redesigned.esm

StreetLights.esm

Run the Lucky 38.esm

CoitoErgoSum.esm

BelthansQuoVagis.esm

TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp

TTW_OutcastTrading.esp

TTW_SpeechChecks.esp

TTW_StartupMenu.esp

TTWOptions.esp

ttw_wildwasteland.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

TTW_Transportalponder.esp

TTW - Fellout.esp

gnr_enhanced.esp

Find Ingots.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

The Lucky 38 Empire.esp

ExtendedNVRadio.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

FOVSlider.esp

BQV2DLC.esp

JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

STFU.esp

cesRobertsCompatibility.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

PrnOut.esp



Total active plugins: 48

Total plugins: 49


Symptoms, as mentioned, are frequent crashes to desktop or hangups. Also, perhaps related and perhaps not, 99% of the time I transition from one cell to another with a radio station playing, it loops a short (half-second or even shorter) clip two or three times before picking up the song where it would have been had it played through (So, something like "I'm a mi-mi-mi I'm young and I'm in my prime..." Sometimes, rather than crashing to desktop, the song will simply loop that short clip forever; sometimes, it will just keep playing the song properly, but never transition to the new cell. I've had some other issues, like Liberty Prime getting stuck in the water and certain characters (such as Larry Slater, from the Quo Vagis mod) getting stuck in place during a quest, but I was able to force my way through those by changing quest stages or abusing moveto.player.


I believe my copy of FO3 was from the GOTY discs.


In case it matters, I manually converted Quo Vagis and the Quo Vagis DLC patch to TTW, and have installed the latest version of that mod.


I'm hoping there's something obvious in my load order, either a mod I no longer need or something in the wrong order, that can resolve this. If it's more serious a problem, then I may end up reinstalling fresh, but would really rather not have to bring a new character through everything I've done so far (level 36, the entire FO3 main quest, all of Old World Blues, etc.)


 


Thanks in advance if anyone is up for helping me with this!



Bandy
Posts: 67
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:23 pm

I'm sure you'll get a better

Post by Bandy » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:15 pm

I'm sure you'll get a better more knowledgeable response soon, but going to mention that TTW can be a very stable experience with many added mods if best procedures are followed.


RE: symptoms, when did it start?  From the beginning or at some specific point during play through?  Did you add some of those mods later in the game?  If so, go back to a save before you added those mods and remove the mods. Speaking of saved games, there is a limit to how many and exceeding that can cause problems.


You speak of possible bad load order, which makes me wonder if you are using LOOT, Wrye bash, and other necessary utilities for stable play.  Did you create bash-tags for instance?  Have you looked for mod conflicts using FNVedit?


Hate to point this out, but by continuing to play with frequent crashes is like ignoring cancer.  My limited experience with Bethesda-related games (compared to many players/modders) is that when it starts to crash that often, you're going to need to restart.



dilbert719
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 am

I can't rightly say when the

Post by dilbert719 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:13 am

I can't rightly say when the symptoms started, because I stopped playing ToTW for a year or so and came back to it with a new game a month or so ago. I remember having similar issues with it then (especially the sound skipping issue, which I know I've had from the first fresh install), but either I was displaying the patience of Job or it wasn't as severe as it has become. I haven't added too many mods recently; since I started my new playthrough, I've switched my body replacers from Breeze's and... I forget what female mod I used in favor of Robert's and Beware of Girl, added a poster replacer for NV, and updated Quo Vagis to the most current version.


As for saved games, my current save is save #534, and the first save on this playthrough was save #508. I have 72 saves total in my folder, not counting the autosave, quicksave, a "mysave" for the FONV REFR deleter, and one random save that I don't know what it is, called system save Rory (I presume either from a utility that kept one or something I made to save an old playthrough from whenever ago.)


I haven't run LOOT recently, since (and this could be my memory failing me) I thought I saw somewhere on here that LOOT mis-sorts things for TTW, and would make matters worse. I haven't used Wrye Bash this playthrough, so probably not on the bash tags; I honestly don't recall what those are. I have looked for mod conflicts, and I get a clean bill of health on that front.


Yeah, I may not be able to salvage this playthrough; I may need to just bite the bullet and do a clean install of everything, but I figure before pulling the plug and flushing everything down the drain, it's worth seeing if there's something I just plain missed.


Thanks for the assistance!



User avatar
Risewild
Posts: 3219
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:14 am

I can't be of much help.

Post by Risewild » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:12 am

I can't be of much help.


Are you using NVAC?


Have you tried disabling the Auto Save function and see if it improves?


Also since your install is old, are you using the most recent TTW version (2.9.4b)?


Signature:

dilbert719
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 am

Thanks for checking in! I am

Post by dilbert719 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:02 am

Thanks for checking in! I am using NVAC, which didn't seem to make much difference (oh, and that is one other thing I did; a new version of NVAC had released in the interim, and I updated that, to no visible effect).


Disabling auto save seems to have helped a little bit; I was able to get the game to stay stable for about 45 minutes just now, but this time it froze in the middle of combat, rather than on a cell transition (I am still having the looping radio issue; it doesn't appear to occur with the ambient sound files when the radio's off.)


... and I appear to be running 2.9.4a, which comes as a complete surprise to me; I was sure I had been using 2.9.4b. Checking the 7z file name, though, it appears my memory's completely failed me. I've just downloaded b, and will install that tomorrow (as it's 2 AM here, and I don't want to muck with my game when I'm tired.) Once I have a chance to do that, I'll report back if the issues are fixed.



dilbert719
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 am

OK, well, good news/bad news

Post by dilbert719 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:20 am

OK, well, good news/bad news situation. Good news: I'm now updated through 2.9.4b, and have updated TTW Fixes to 2.2.2 from 2.2.0. I also redid my merge patch. Bad news: game ran for 20 minutes and crashed as I was leaving Vault 92. It was also doing the sound looping thing.


My load order has changed since I activated and deactivated a bunch of things in the process of getting a clean save for the update. I've deleted the FNV and FO3 masters from the pasted load order to save space, but here are the reordered esms and esps:


TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm

TTWFixes.esm

Run the Lucky 38.esm

CoitoErgoSum.esm

BelthansQuoVagis.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

StreetLights.esm

ttw_wildwasteland.esp

TTWOptions.esp

TTW_SpeechChecks.esp

TTW_OutcastTrading.esp

TTW_Reputation.esp

TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp

The Lucky 38 Empire.esp

BQV2DLC.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

FOVSlider.esp

Project Nevada - TTW.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

gnr_enhanced.esp

Find Ingots.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

ExtendedNVRadio.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

cesRobertsCompatibility.esp

PrnOut.esp

TTW_Transportalponder.esp

TTW FlashlightNVSE.esp

TTW - Fellout.esp

STFU.esp

Merged Patch 12-14-16.esp



Total active plugins: 49

Total plugins: 49

 


Just in case those changes make a difference.



User avatar
RoyBatty
Gary
Posts: 7742
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:26 am
Location: Vault 108

Sound problems and crashing

Post by RoyBatty » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:14 am

Sound problems and crashing is an indication you have installed a codec pack or ffdshow. Uninstall codec packs and use default windows codecs. For FFDShow it has in it's menu an exclusion list, add everything to it relating to Fallout 3 or NV.


Image

dilbert719
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 am

Thanks, Roy. I don't believe

Post by dilbert719 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:55 pm

Thanks, Roy. I don't believe I have a codec pack installed; I've looked through my list of installed programs and searched my Program Files and PF(x86) folders on both of my hard drives, and can't find evidence of ffdshow or the K-Lite codec pack (and if I had any, it'd probably be that one.) Unless Sopcast, streamtorrent, VLC, or Plays.tv installed something without my knowledge, I can't imagine what it could be.


I did grab a list of installed codecs from Windows Media Player. I presume they're all default codecs, but I have no real idea what's supposed to come with windows, so do you happen to see anything out of the ordinary? If so, I may be able to track it down.



Audio Codecs



















































































Type

Name

Format

Binary

Version

ACM

Microsoft IMA ADPCM CODEC

0011

 

 

ACM

Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (decode only)

0055

 

 

ACM

Microsoft ADPCM CODEC

0002

 

 

ACM

Microsoft CCITT G.711 A-Law and u-Law CODEC

0007

 

 

ACM

Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC

0031

 

 

ACM

Microsoft PCM Converter

0001

 

 

DMO

WMAudio Decoder DMO

0160, 0161, 0162, 0163

WMADMOD.DLL

10.0.14393.0

DMO

WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO

0162

WMADMOD.DLL

10.0.14393.0

DMO

WMSpeech Decoder DMO

000A, 000B

WMSPDMOD.DLL

10.0.14393.0

DMO

MP3 Decoder DMO

0055

mp3dmod.dll

10.0.14393.0


Video Codecs








































































































Type

Name

Format

Binary

Version

ICM

Cinepak Codec by Radius

cvid

iccvid.dll

1.10.0.12

ICM

Logitech Video (I420)

i420

lvcodec2.dll

13.80.853.0

ICM

Intel IYUV codec

IYUV

iyuv_32.dll

10.0.14393.0

ICM

Microsoft RLE

MRLE

msrle32.dll

10.0.14393.0

ICM

Microsoft Video 1

MSVC

msvidc32.dll

10.0.14393.0

ICM

Microsoft YUV

UYVY

msyuv.dll

10.0.14393.0

ICM

Toshiba YUV Codec

Y411

tsbyuv.dll

10.0.14393.0

ICM

Microsoft YUV

UYVY

msyuv.dll

10.0.14393.0

DMO

Mpeg4s Decoder DMO

mp4s, MP4S, m4s2, M4S2, MP4V, mp4v, XVID, xvid, DIVX, DX50

mp4sdecd.dll

10.0.14393.0

DMO

WMV Screen decoder DMO

MSS1, MSS2

wmvsdecd.dll

10.0.14393.0

DMO

WMVideo Decoder DMO

WMV1, WMV2, WMV3, WMVA, WVC1, WMVP, WVP2, VC1S

wmvdecod.dll

10.0.14393.0

DMO

Mpeg43 Decoder DMO

mp43, MP43

mp43decd.dll

10.0.14393.0

DMO

Mpeg4 Decoder DMO

MPG4, mpg4, mp42, MP42

mpg4decd.dll

10.0.14393.0

 



User avatar
RoyBatty
Gary
Posts: 7742
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:26 am
Location: Vault 108

seems to be clean, but I can

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:59 am

seems to be clean, but I can't find a list for windows 10.


Have you made sure your audio drivers are up to date?


Image

Bandy
Posts: 67
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:23 pm

Just a comment from the

Post by Bandy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:01 pm

Just a comment from the peanut gallery, Windows Media Player has been a major source of frustration for me with older games crashing.



Post Reply