I can't pass the speech check with Tulip regarding who Mr Crowley is

[Zealot]

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    Inside the Museum of History (next to the Washington Monument) there's the Ghoul city "Underworld". After meeting the ghoul Mr Crowley and accepting his quest, I get a new dialog option with the Underworld characters. However:
    
    
    
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      With Tulip I get a [SPEECH 40] option that always fails, and I don't understand why. I took some screenshots about what's happening.
      
      
      
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      I never played Fallout 3 before. This may be a false alarm and is working as designed?!
    
    
    
    
  
  
  
  


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  What you have already tried?
  
  
  
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    I managed to get my Speech skill as high as 86, but it still fails.
  
  
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    I also tried to get my Barter up to 60 to see if there was just a mislabeling of the challenge, but it still fails.
  
  
  
  

[Zealot]

I can provide a save file, if the TTW devs want it.

[WastelandAssassin]

I can confirm that i also had similar problems with several speech challenges

for some reason, boosts from items or magazines didn't seem to work with the challenges in FO3, unlike in NV where it works like a charm

the problems i had were with the characters involved in "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head" quest (Ted Strayer and Dukov for sure, the rest i can't recall)

with Ted, even when i had the skill at a higher level then the required one, it still would fail, and i tried doing it several times, always resulting in failure

[paragonskeep]

Test it by setting speech up (console: "player.setav speech 100")

 

[Zealot]

Not even that works. I also confirmed in my Pip boy if the Speech skill was set to 100, and it was. This is definitely a bug. Fortunately not a serious one as asking the same question to other NPCs will be enough to challenge Mr Crowley.

 

By the way, I think the ghoul Greta is bugged too. She's always outside by the entrance to the Underworld, and most of the time "on a break".

 

This is all on version 2.6.3a by the way.

[WastelandAssassin]

[quote=Zealot]

By the way, I think the ghoul Greta is bugged too. She's always outside by the entrance to the Underworld, and most of the time "on a break".

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I can also confirm this happening

the first time i saw her she was in her bar, then she went out and since then is on break in the same position